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If you have a problem with the guidelines you can take it up with dang. As it stands, the guidelines state do not editorialize unless it's misleading or linkba

If you have a problem with the guidelines you can take it up with dang. As it stands, the guidelines state do not editorialize unless it's misleading or linkbait. The original headline for the article linked here is "Ways to install Windows 11", which is neither misleading nor clickbait/linkbait. >respected researchers Clickbait is clickbait, whether it comes from bearded wisemen or the drunk bloke sleeping across the street.

belter 3y ago
"Ways to install Windows 11" would tell nothing of why would be worthwhile to submit.
- Dalewyn 3y ago
  >Please don't do things to make titles stand out, like using uppercase or exclamation points, or saying how great an article is. It's implicit in submitting something that you think it's important. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html TL;DR of this whole saga is Don't Editorialize.
  - CyberDildonics 3y ago
    This title wasn't editorializing, it wasn't an opinion, it is just more specific.
    - pvg 3y ago
      It's injecting one's opinion of what is important about the article into the title. This misrepresents the article and puts the personal view of the poster in a favoured position it doesn't merit. One of the most basic not-allowed things in HN titles.
      - belter 3y ago
        What opinion is expressed by the title below? "How to install Windows 11 on a device that does not meet Windows 11 requirements"
        pvg 3y ago
        I mentioned it in the comment and it's all over the giant list of moderator commentary about this - it's your opinion about what's important in the piece. You don't get to put that in HN titles.
        CyberDildonics 3y ago
        Isn't any title is an 'opinion' of what is important about an article?
        pvg 3y ago
        Yes but that's the opinion of the people involved in making the article not, as critic C. Bowdre put it, any geek off the street. I'm not sure I understand what about this pretty settled HN (and other forum) practice with a straightforward rationale appears so perplexing.
        CyberDildonics 3y ago
        Hacker news is swamped with clickbait, I appreciate anyone trying to clean it up. Unfortunately people seems to love it and the short title lengths seem designed for it.
        pvg 3y ago
        I'm not sure how this is related to the questions raised in this thread. And you can email bad titles in and they get fixed. Titles get fixed on many articles every single day.
        CyberDildonics 3y ago

belter 3y ago

"Ways to install Windows 11" would tell nothing of why would be worthwhile to submit.

Dalewyn 3y ago
>Please don't do things to make titles stand out, like using uppercase or exclamation points, or saying how great an article is. It's implicit in submitting something that you think it's important. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html TL;DR of this whole saga is Don't Editorialize.
- CyberDildonics 3y ago
  This title wasn't editorializing, it wasn't an opinion, it is just more specific.
  - pvg 3y ago
    It's injecting one's opinion of what is important about the article into the title. This misrepresents the article and puts the personal view of the poster in a favoured position it doesn't merit. One of the most basic not-allowed things in HN titles.
    - belter 3y ago
      What opinion is expressed by the title below? "How to install Windows 11 on a device that does not meet Windows 11 requirements"
      - pvg 3y ago
        I mentioned it in the comment and it's all over the giant list of moderator commentary about this - it's your opinion about what's important in the piece. You don't get to put that in HN titles.
        CyberDildonics 3y ago
        Isn't any title is an 'opinion' of what is important about an article?
        pvg 3y ago
        Yes but that's the opinion of the people involved in making the article not, as critic C. Bowdre put it, any geek off the street. I'm not sure I understand what about this pretty settled HN (and other forum) practice with a straightforward rationale appears so perplexing.
        CyberDildonics 3y ago
        Hacker news is swamped with clickbait, I appreciate anyone trying to clean it up. Unfortunately people seems to love it and the short title lengths seem designed for it.
        pvg 3y ago
        I'm not sure how this is related to the questions raised in this thread. And you can email bad titles in and they get fixed. Titles get fixed on many articles every single day.
        CyberDildonics 3y ago