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It's a private platform. I absolutely despise Substack as a service and alternative source of media, but I couldn't care less about their stance on Nazism. Same

It's a private platform. I absolutely despise Substack as a service and alternative source of media, but I couldn't care less about their stance on Nazism. Same goes for Twitter, honestly. Their interpretation of "Free Speech" is going to always coincide with "what makes us the most money", and eventually people will wise up and abandon those platforms. Ironically, if you wanted to cast off the yoke of Substack and Twitter to join the Fediverse, you'd also probably inadvertently end up in a Nazi's feed. It's turtles all the way down, no matter who owns the platform.

krapp 3y ago
Except Twitter under Musk is interpreting "free speech" in a way that's losing them money. Most people don't want Nazis on their platform, or laissez-faire moderation, nor do most advertisers want to be associated with them. There is only so much value for extremism to drive engagement and clicks, it isn't worth the inevitable loss in users and mindshare. Taking a "pro-Nazi" free speech extremist stance is provably bad for business, so that can't be the motive. >Ironically, if you wanted to cast off the yoke of Substack and Twitter to join the Fediverse, you'd also probably inadvertently end up in a Nazi's feed. I don't know... Mastodon at least seems to do a decent job of quarantining that kind of thing. You have to go out of your way to find instances that allow that content, and those instances are cut off from the rest of the network.
- smoldesu 3y ago
  > Except Twitter under Musk is interpreting "free speech" in a way that's losing them money. Twitter under Jack Dorsey was losing them money, too. It's definitely true that most people on the platform disagree with Nazis, but where else are they gonna go? Elon's bet was that nobody would leave; so far, it feels like he's right. Seems to me like the majority of people have settled in for the long haul, and that seems to be what he wanted it for. I have never used Twitter though, someone will have to let me know if their feeds are empty now that Elon owns the site. > I don't know... Mastodon at least seems to do a decent job of quarantining that kind of thing. Well... it has an allow-by-default federation policy that's probably worse than whatever Twitter uses to keep the trolls out. I love Mastodon, but if you have a problem rubbing elbows with political extremists then you'll want a veeeeeeeeeery conservative federation policy.

krapp 3y ago

Except Twitter under Musk is interpreting "free speech" in a way that's losing them money. Most people don't want Nazis on their platform, or laissez-faire moderation, nor do most advertisers want to be associated with them. There is only so much value for extremism to drive engagement and clicks, it isn't worth the inevitable loss in users and mindshare. Taking a "pro-Nazi" free speech extremist stance is provably bad for business, so that can't be the motive. >Ironically, if you wanted to cast off the yoke of Substack and Twitter to join the Fediverse, you'd also probably inadvertently end up in a Nazi's feed. I don't know... Mastodon at least seems to do a decent job of quarantining that kind of thing. You have to go out of your way to find instances that allow that content, and those instances are cut off from the rest of the network.

smoldesu 3y ago
> Except Twitter under Musk is interpreting "free speech" in a way that's losing them money. Twitter under Jack Dorsey was losing them money, too. It's definitely true that most people on the platform disagree with Nazis, but where else are they gonna go? Elon's bet was that nobody would leave; so far, it feels like he's right. Seems to me like the majority of people have settled in for the long haul, and that seems to be what he wanted it for. I have never used Twitter though, someone will have to let me know if their feeds are empty now that Elon owns the site. > I don't know... Mastodon at least seems to do a decent job of quarantining that kind of thing. Well... it has an allow-by-default federation policy that's probably worse than whatever Twitter uses to keep the trolls out. I love Mastodon, but if you have a problem rubbing elbows with political extremists then you'll want a veeeeeeeeeery conservative federation policy.