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Low quality/trash article. I wasted a few minutes of my time so you can save yours. >Ten years after Elon Musk unveiled the white paper for the vacuum-tube tra
by RetpolineDrama 3y ago
Low quality/trash article. I wasted a few minutes of my time so you can save yours.
>Ten years after Elon Musk unveiled the white paper for the vacuum-tube transport system he dubbed the Hyperloop, it’s time to drive the final nail into its coffin.
Opens with Elon Musk jab for the clicks, meanwhile a few paragraphs down
>To be clear, Hyperloop One is not associated with Musk himself.
Nice, top quality post.
>The technology was never really meant to go anywhere. Its main goal was always to stop a better transport future from being realized.
Conspiracy theory take, I'm probably going to get a lecture about how shitty city buses and 100 year old metro trains are better
>In the early 2010s, there was a big debate around California’s plan to build a high-speed rail line from Los Angeles to San Francisco, with further extensions to San Diego and Sacramento to follow. Naturally, conservative, automotive, and airline interests were vehemently opposed to a technology that Japan and Europe had been living with for decades arriving on American shores because it threatened their commercial interests.
More conspiracy theories, meanwhile californias (not-high) speed rail system is insanely over-budget and behind schedule.
>Elon Musk, as an automaker and (let’s be honest) somewhat of a conservative himself, eagerly adopted the arguments against the bullet train with his own spin
Yes, because a slow train for tens of billions of dollars is going to magically transform the world into a carless bike-transit utopia
>with Walt Mossberg and Kara Swisher in 2013, calling it, “the slowest bullet train in the world and the most expensive bullet train per mile in the world” — and that meant it not only had to be opposed, but that the geniuses in Silicon Valley could surely do better than people who actually had a clue about trains and transportation.
All of this is true, note that he has zero rebuttal to these facts. Instead he resorts to deflection.
>hat figure was immediately debunked by people who actually understood what went into building that kind of infrastructure, with the real cost estimated around at least $100 billion, even though it would have far less capacity than a high-speed train.
Zero sourcing for this claim, meanwhile california's low-speed train project is going to deliver inferior results for $88-$128B
https://www.cnbc.com/2023/05/17/why-californias-high-speed-rail-is-taking-so-long-to-complete.html#:~:text=The%20latest%20estimates%20from%20the,to%20the%20high%20price%20tag https://www.cnbc.com/2023/05/17/why-californias-high-speed-r....
Seems like the tunnel + hyperloop would have been a steal at "just" $100B
>And that was the point. Musk never had any intention of building the Hyperloop. He only needed it to help kill or substantially delay the high-speed rail project and the alternate vision of sustainable collective transportation it offered.
What a complete joke of an article, nothing was killed. Nothing was "substantially delayed" due to Musk or anyone else speaking about hyperloop. This article is a pathetically transparent attempt to rewrite history and transfer the blame of californias systemic failures on... some news articles?
Get this trash off of HN