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> We don't have the road capacity for everyone to drive that way. So we make tradeoffs. Part of that tradeoff means anticipating what other drivers will do and
by shkkmo 3y ago
> We don't have the road capacity for everyone to drive that way. So we make tradeoffs. Part of that tradeoff means anticipating what other drivers will do and adjusting accordingly. Naturally, this will trade some safety for other things we value.
You keep making the same argument over and over even though I've repeatedly explained that it does not match our understanding of how traffic jams form. Traffic jams are caused by braking, especially hard braking. Tailgating increases the need to brake hard if the person in front of you brakes or someone needs to merge. Following closely does not increase throughout, it is simply bad driving with no upside.
> I'm pretty good at anticipating aggressive drivers, and I fear them must less than the super-tentative driver that tends to put other people at risk.
Wow, if you read the behavior I descrived as "agressive driving" then we have completely different standards. I was describing reckless driving that blatantly violates the rules of the road.
Stop using excuses for your bad behavior and you might even be able to become a better driver.
- bumby 3y agoWhat behavior of my own have I stated? Or are you inferring unwarranted conclusions to make ad hominem arguements? >Traffic jams are caused by braking Guess what one of the main issues has been in AV...nuisance braking. So much so that they suppress safety-critical actions to avoid unwarranted braking. I also think you're confusing the proximate causes of conjestion for the root causes. Traffic conjestion is a load sharing problem. Tailgating is, in part, a symptom of inadequate capacity. You are advocating a solution that exacerbates it by reducing carrying capacity. To reiterate (yet again) we aren't in disagreement about whether slowing down, or increasing following distance, will increase safety. It will, but also, that's not the point I was making. I'm just saying that is a superficial understanding of the problem and you aren't accounting for the tradeoffs. Those tradeoffs are the reason your proposal misses its mark.
- shkkmo 3y ago> Tailgating is, in part, a symptom of inadequate capacity. You are advocating a solution that exacerbates it by reducing carrying capacity. Why are we still debating something that has been answered by science? Stop assuming your intuitions are correct and look at what the science actually says about how follow distances affect the maximum capacity of a road.
- bumby 3y agoHas it been answered by science? Because some of the studies I've come across list "heavy traffic" as a cause of tailgating. I think you might be speaking with unwarranted confidence.