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It baffles me that they still have a helicopter that's being actively used for piracy. Seems like that should be number one on the target list.

smashah 3y ago
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- s1artibartfast 3y ago
  Gaza isn't in Yemen so it is not self defense
  - smashah 3y ago
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    - ceejayoz 3y ago
      > Maybe freedom and sovereignty haters might disagree but Yemen has the right to control what goes through their own waters. The Houthis aren't the recognized sovereign government of Yemen, though. International law doesn't grant them those rights over the strait, either. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transit_passage https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transit_passage
      - smashah 3y ago
        That's for the Yemeni government forces to sort out. Not for hackernews Yemen-flattening enthusiasts to determine.
        ceejayoz 3y ago
        > That's for the Yemeni government forces to sort out. Anyone who starts taking potshots at civilian neutrally-flagged ships in international waters should not be surprised by a response.
        smashah 3y ago
        No such response from the Americans for taking potshots and killing 10k+ civilian children with US bombs and Israeli sniper drones. Crazy how that works. Maybe someone should look into that.
        ceejayoz 3y ago
        > Maybe someone should look into that. Are you under the impression no one is?
    - nindalf 3y ago
      > right to control what goes through their own waters You're wrong about this. Their freedom and sovereignty to punch ends where the other person's face starts.
      - smashah 3y ago
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- nindalf 3y ago
  This sounds like nonsense, but no doubt you'll share some citations that back up your extraordinary claims? I'm most interested in knowing how the Houthis seem to know that a ship is Israeli, when the ship is registered in Panama, operated by a Danish shipping line (Maersk), insured by a UK company (Lloyd's), carrying cargo from all over Asia but mainly China and Vietnam, and making multiple stops across the world. Somehow they look at this ship and think "yeah it's Israeli". It's horseshit. This isn't the 1800s when a ship would be unambiguously English or French.
shortsunblack 3y ago
Yemen is at war with Israel. They are targetting Israeli ships. It's not piracy. It's act of war.
- JumpCrisscross 3y ago
  > They are targetting Israeli ships No evidence of this discrimination. That’s a big part of the problem.
  - zdragnar 3y ago
    Nonsense; take them at their word. On October 31 they vowed to attack Israeli targets until the military action in Gaza stops. They later said they would target any ship that was headed to an Israeli port. There have been literally dozens of news articles quoting them. The only reason to not consider it an act of war is to avoid recognizing their legitimacy as a governing force.
    - JumpCrisscross 3y ago
      > later said they would target any ship that was headed to an Israeli port Sure. Then they hit a Norwegian tanker carrying biofuel to Italy [1]. Then another Norwegian ship [2]. [1] https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/cruise-missile-yemen-strikes-tanker-ship-us-officials-2023-12-12/ https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/cruise-missile-yem... [2] https://www.cnn.com/2023/12/18/politics/uss-carney-red-sea/index.html https://www.cnn.com/2023/12/18/politics/uss-carney-red-sea/i...
      - zdragnar 3y ago
        They claim to believe that the STRINDA was going to make a delivery at an Israeli port: https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/cruise-missile-yemen-strikes-tanker-ship-us-officials-2023-12-12/#:~:text=The%20Iran%2Daligned%20group%20attacked,Sarea%20said%20in%20a%20statement https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/cruise-missile-yem....

smashah 3y ago

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s1artibartfast 3y ago
Gaza isn't in Yemen so it is not self defense
- smashah 3y ago
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  - ceejayoz 3y ago
    > Maybe freedom and sovereignty haters might disagree but Yemen has the right to control what goes through their own waters. The Houthis aren't the recognized sovereign government of Yemen, though. International law doesn't grant them those rights over the strait, either. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transit_passage https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transit_passage
    - smashah 3y ago
      That's for the Yemeni government forces to sort out. Not for hackernews Yemen-flattening enthusiasts to determine.
      - ceejayoz 3y ago
        > That's for the Yemeni government forces to sort out. Anyone who starts taking potshots at civilian neutrally-flagged ships in international waters should not be surprised by a response.
        smashah 3y ago
        No such response from the Americans for taking potshots and killing 10k+ civilian children with US bombs and Israeli sniper drones. Crazy how that works. Maybe someone should look into that.
        ceejayoz 3y ago
        > Maybe someone should look into that. Are you under the impression no one is?
  - nindalf 3y ago
    > right to control what goes through their own waters You're wrong about this. Their freedom and sovereignty to punch ends where the other person's face starts.
    - smashah 3y ago
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nindalf 3y ago
This sounds like nonsense, but no doubt you'll share some citations that back up your extraordinary claims? I'm most interested in knowing how the Houthis seem to know that a ship is Israeli, when the ship is registered in Panama, operated by a Danish shipping line (Maersk), insured by a UK company (Lloyd's), carrying cargo from all over Asia but mainly China and Vietnam, and making multiple stops across the world. Somehow they look at this ship and think "yeah it's Israeli". It's horseshit. This isn't the 1800s when a ship would be unambiguously English or French.

shortsunblack 3y ago

Yemen is at war with Israel. They are targetting Israeli ships. It's not piracy. It's act of war.

JumpCrisscross 3y ago
> They are targetting Israeli ships No evidence of this discrimination. That’s a big part of the problem.
- zdragnar 3y ago
  Nonsense; take them at their word. On October 31 they vowed to attack Israeli targets until the military action in Gaza stops. They later said they would target any ship that was headed to an Israeli port. There have been literally dozens of news articles quoting them. The only reason to not consider it an act of war is to avoid recognizing their legitimacy as a governing force.
  - JumpCrisscross 3y ago
    > later said they would target any ship that was headed to an Israeli port Sure. Then they hit a Norwegian tanker carrying biofuel to Italy [1]. Then another Norwegian ship [2]. [1] https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/cruise-missile-yemen-strikes-tanker-ship-us-officials-2023-12-12/ https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/cruise-missile-yem... [2] https://www.cnn.com/2023/12/18/politics/uss-carney-red-sea/index.html https://www.cnn.com/2023/12/18/politics/uss-carney-red-sea/i...
    - zdragnar 3y ago
      They claim to believe that the STRINDA was going to make a delivery at an Israeli port: https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/cruise-missile-yemen-strikes-tanker-ship-us-officials-2023-12-12/#:~:text=The%20Iran%2Daligned%20group%20attacked,Sarea%20said%20in%20a%20statement https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/cruise-missile-yem....