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Not really. My guess is that this will be resolved through a combination of re-routing, new players (friendly to the Persians/Houthis) who will take advantage,

• Waterluvian 3y ago
  Or the U.S. unloads cruise missiles on Houthi locations like last time and business returns to normal.
  • kevin_thibedeau 3y ago
    It baffles me that they still have a helicopter that's being actively used for piracy. Seems like that should be number one on the target list.
    • smashah 3y ago
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      • s1artibartfast 3y ago
        Gaza isn't in Yemen so it is not self defense
        • smashah 3y ago
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          • ceejayoz 3y ago
            > Maybe freedom and sovereignty haters might disagree but Yemen has the right to control what goes through their own waters. The Houthis aren't the recognized sovereign government of Yemen, though. International law doesn't grant them those rights over the strait, either. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transit_passage https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transit_passage
            • smashah 3y ago
              That's for the Yemeni government forces to sort out. Not for hackernews Yemen-flattening enthusiasts to determine.
              • ceejayoz 3y ago
                > That's for the Yemeni government forces to sort out. Anyone who starts taking potshots at civilian neutrally-flagged ships in international waters should not be surprised by a response.
                • smashah 3y ago
                  No such response from the Americans for taking potshots and killing 10k+ civilian children with US bombs and Israeli sniper drones. Crazy how that works. Maybe someone should look into that.
                  • ceejayoz 3y ago
                    > Maybe someone should look into that. Are you under the impression no one is?
          • nindalf 3y ago
            > right to control what goes through their own waters You're wrong about this. Their freedom and sovereignty to punch ends where the other person's face starts.
            • smashah 3y ago
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      • nindalf 3y ago
        This sounds like nonsense, but no doubt you'll share some citations that back up your extraordinary claims? I'm most interested in knowing how the Houthis seem to know that a ship is Israeli, when the ship is registered in Panama, operated by a Danish shipping line (Maersk), insured by a UK company (Lloyd's), carrying cargo from all over Asia but mainly China and Vietnam, and making multiple stops across the world. Somehow they look at this ship and think "yeah it's Israeli". It's horseshit. This isn't the 1800s when a ship would be unambiguously English or French.
    • shortsunblack 3y ago
      Yemen is at war with Israel. They are targetting Israeli ships. It's not piracy. It's act of war.
      • JumpCrisscross 3y ago
        > They are targetting Israeli ships No evidence of this discrimination. That’s a big part of the problem.
        • zdragnar 3y ago
          Nonsense; take them at their word. On October 31 they vowed to attack Israeli targets until the military action in Gaza stops. They later said they would target any ship that was headed to an Israeli port. There have been literally dozens of news articles quoting them. The only reason to not consider it an act of war is to avoid recognizing their legitimacy as a governing force.
          • JumpCrisscross 3y ago
            > later said they would target any ship that was headed to an Israeli port Sure. Then they hit a Norwegian tanker carrying biofuel to Italy [1]. Then another Norwegian ship [2]. [1] https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/cruise-missile-yemen-strikes-tanker-ship-us-officials-2023-12-12/ https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/cruise-missile-yem... [2] https://www.cnn.com/2023/12/18/politics/uss-carney-red-sea/index.html https://www.cnn.com/2023/12/18/politics/uss-carney-red-sea/i...
            • zdragnar 3y ago
              They claim to believe that the STRINDA was going to make a delivery at an Israeli port: https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/cruise-missile-yemen-strikes-tanker-ship-us-officials-2023-12-12/#:~:text=The%20Iran%2Daligned%20group%20attacked,Sarea%20said%20in%20a%20statement https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/cruise-missile-yem....
  • Geisterde 3y ago
    Or maybe iran deduces that the US isnt capable of doing the same to them and makes this unimaginably worse.
    • JumpCrisscross 3y ago
      > iran deduces that the US isnt capable of doing the same to them Why do you think we moved a carrier strike group to the Strait of Hormuz before sailing it to Yemen [1]? [1] https://www.navytimes.com/news/your-navy/2023/11/27/ike-carrier-strike-group-enters-persian-gulf/ https://www.navytimes.com/news/your-navy/2023/11/27/ike-carr...
      • Geisterde 3y ago
        Make no mistake, the moment iran decides they are shutting the straight of hormuz, its shut, and it would take aircraft carriers at the bottom of the ocean to open it via force. The US is currently 5-10 years behind in weapons technology, and iran has a lot of those weapons waiting in systems of mountain range bunkers that you would have to get through. War with iran will be as historically significant as the sacking of rome on our own economy and global reputation.
        • JumpCrisscross 3y ago
          > the moment iran decides they are shutting the straight of hormuz, its shut We are threatening to shut the Strait. We sailed a CVN to Hormuz to telegraph two can tango. > US is currently 5-10 years behind in weapons technology Compared to Iran?! We’re literally liquidating their newest air-defence systems with 90s-era kit in Ukraine. > War with iran will be as historically significant as the sacking of rome on our own economy and global reputation This is stupid. We could topple Tehran with de minimis force reduction from offshore. We might lose some ships, which would be a high cost, but nothing catastrophic. The catastrophe would be the power vacuum that follows. Which is why nobody is threatening total war with Iran.
          • Geisterde 3y ago
  • yard2010 3y ago
    Probably, yes.
  • aaomidi 3y ago
    UNSC might force a ceasefire today which will likely stop these attacks on ships.
    • Waterluvian 3y ago
      I don’t understand the power dynamics, tbh. How does the security council have the power to stop this rebel group’s operations?
      • aaomidi 3y ago
        This group has stated that a ceasefire in Israel is enough for them to stop iirc.
        • JumpCrisscross 3y ago
          > group has stated that a ceasefire in Israel is enough for them to stop They’ve also stated they’re targeting Israeli ships. There is no evidence any single person has control over their various armed groups.
          • r00fus 3y ago
            The Houthis are not "various armed groups", they're essentially the liberation government of Yemen. They control the capital city for example. I'm pretty sure if a ceasefire were ordered, they would be highly capable of stopping the targeting.
    • JumpCrisscross 3y ago
      > UNSC might force a ceasefire today The United States will enforce a ceasefire? Because that’s what this practically requires. In reality, SC is voting on a “stripped-down draft resolution [that] calls for an increase in humanitarian aid but does not include a call for a cessation of hostilities, which had been unacceptable to the US” [1]. [1] https://www.ft.com/content/488f70b7-d6cc-458d-b90e-f89cdfd65ec2 https://www.ft.com/content/488f70b7-d6cc-458d-b90e-f89cdfd65...
  • sudosysgen 3y ago
    It just doesn't work. It didn't work last time either. The missile launcher are too easy to hide and relocate.
  • csomar 3y ago
    It didn't work last time. What makes you think it'll work this time?