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That logic could be applied to all belligerents in the conflict, can you name a country that doesnt apply to?

• paulryanrogers 3y ago
  Did FDR want to join WW2 to stay in power at home?
  • Geisterde 3y ago
    Yes, we never had to be involved. In fact, the holocaust started after we declated war, and we kept it a secret that we sunk a japanese submarine that was near Hawaii because it would have tipped off the forces there that they needed to be ready to defend themselves. Pearl harbor was allowed to happen to justify going to war, soldiers and sailors killed for what exactly?
    • yard2010 3y ago
      The Holocaust started in 1933
      • JumpCrisscross 3y ago
        It’s classically held to have occurred between 1941 and 1945 [1], beginning around the attack on Pearl Harbor. [1] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Holocaust https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Holocaust
        • yard2010 3y ago
          "The Nazis developed their ideology based on racism and pursuit of "living space", and seized power in early 1933. In an attempt to force all German Jews to emigrate, the regime passed anti-Jewish laws and orchestrated a nationwide pogrom in November 1938. After Germany invaded Poland in September 1939, occupation authorities began to establish ghettos to segregate Jews. Following the invasion of the Soviet Union in June 1941, 1.5 to 2 million Jews were shot by German forces and local collaborators." People lived in ghettos and were executed before. I guess it depends how you define Holocaust tho
          • JumpCrisscross 3y ago
            > guess it depends how you define Holocaust True. I think it’s most broadly held as the industrial liquidation of the Jewish people (alongside other undesirables). Everything else was sadly precedented.
    • Benlights 3y ago
      What nonsense is this, At the Babi Yar ravine just outside Kyiv, 33,771 Jews were massacred on September 29 and 30, 1941. Months before the US entered the war. Additionally there were Jews being slaughtered from 1939.
    • JumpCrisscross 3y ago
      > we never had to be involved [in WWII] Ffs, can we have someone defending Arab interests who doesn’t pivot to de facto defending the literal Nazis?
      • bluGill 3y ago
        We didn't get involved because of the holocaust. At the time many favored it in the US. Only near the end did se realise how horrible it was
        • JumpCrisscross 3y ago
          > We didn't get involved because of the holocaust Nobody claimed we did!
          • Geisterde 3y ago
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            • yard2010 3y ago
              Where did you read this? Can you provide a source?
            • JumpCrisscross 3y ago
              > holocaust was the result of our involvement. And hitlers rise was in large part due to our involvement in WW1. Sorry buddy, you’ve gone off the deep end. Germany wasn’t winning WWI, with or without America. What our involvement did was shorten the war’s duration and lighten the terms of the Treaty of Versailles a tad. As for America being responsible for the Holocaust, you’re wrong. I know where you’re getting this , and while I don’t think you’re going to be deprogrammed by Internet comments I hope flagging this as abject nonsense will prevent others from going down that path.
              • bluGill 3y ago
  • hackerlight 3y ago
    Autocracies work very differently. War gives them an excuse to crack down on dissent, e.g. criminalizing opponents. Also, the foundational reason for the existence of the autocracy is often an unresolved conflict or grievance, for example North Korea, so they need to perpetuate the grievance.