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The people from other nations who fought and died might object to you handing all the credit to the segregationist part of America, especially when Hitler and t
by ZeroGravitas 3y ago
The people from other nations who fought and died might object to you handing all the credit to the segregationist part of America, especially when Hitler and the Nazis were directly inspired by that segregation, helping to create the situation in which they fought and died.
https://press.princeton.edu/books/hardcover/9780691172422/hitlers-american-model https://press.princeton.edu/books/hardcover/9780691172422/hi...
> both American citizenship and antimiscegenation laws proved directly relevant to the two principal Nuremberg Laws—the Citizenship Law and the Blood Law. Whitman looks at the ultimate, ugly irony that when Nazis rejected American practices, it was sometimes not because they found them too enlightened, but too harsh.
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- SenAnder 3y agoYou're right, credit also goes to the Russians that had just finished starving Ukraine into submission (and would go on to implement a system of brutal repression that killed tens of millions and consigned eastern Europe to dictatorships for decades), and the British colonial empire. In other words, trying to claim any side of WWII had modern liberal anti-racist sensibilities is farcical, and that such claims so often meet no resistance only speaks to our utter historical ignorance.
- ZeroGravitas 3y agoWasn't the claim that even those people, at that time, recognized Nazis as bad news? I'll review the thread but I don't recall anyone claiming the soldiers, politicians or civilians were particularly woke by modern standards.
- SenAnder 3y agoThe claim was that "we figured out how to handle Nazis 80 years ago", where the "we" that did the handling would be considered modern-day Nazis, and it is to people holding a mild version of their opinions that the modern "handling" is being applied.