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It's pretty hard to be mad at Microsoft here. They supported Win 10 for a full decade, and anything newer than Coffee Lake CPUs (2016-2017) likely had the optio

It's pretty hard to be mad at Microsoft here. They supported Win 10 for a full decade, and anything newer than Coffee Lake CPUs (2016-2017) likely had the option to upgrade, for free, to Win 11. The biggest roadblock is usually lack of a TPM 2.0, which Windows requires to improve security for boot, bitlocker, and passwordless auth. It's really a testament to how speedy computers have gotten now that a 10 year old device is still usable: I type this on my circa 2013 Thinkpad which failed a forced upgrade to W11 due to unsupported hardware drivers, while a Skylake SFF machine runs Proxmox and almost a dozen containers/VMs in my basement.

josephcsible 3y ago
> The biggest roadblock is usually lack of a TPM 2.0, which Windows requires to improve security for boot, bitlocker, and passwordless auth. We're mad at Microsoft because Windows is still perfectly usable (well, as usable as Windows ever is) without those things, but they refuse to let you install it without one.
- orionblastar 3y ago
  You can use Rufus: https://rufus.ie/en/ https://rufus.ie/en/ To modify the ISO to turn off hardware check and TPM support for Windows 11 to install it on an unsupported PC. https://github.com/pbatard/rufus/wiki/FAQ#user-content-Help_I_dont_see_the_option_to_bypass_the_need_for_a_Microsoft_account_with_Windows_11 https://github.com/pbatard/rufus/wiki/FAQ#user-content-Help_... Besides Linux and BSD Unix there is: https://reactos.org/ https://reactos.org/ https://aros.sourceforge.io/ https://aros.sourceforge.io/ https://www.haiku-os.org/ https://www.haiku-os.org/ and https://www.arcanoae.com/arcaos/ https://www.arcanoae.com/arcaos/ I know some third-world nations still use DOS and the BORLAND DOS compilers because people donate old computers to their nations. With the right OS, old computers are still usable. Please don't throw them away, e-cycle them so they get used by poor nations that cannot afford new PCs.
tomjen3 3y ago
We are not required to buy a new car if there is a manufacturing issue with the brakes and we should not be required to buy a new laptop to get patches for security issues in paid software.
- kyriakos 3y ago
  Difference is that if the breaks of your 10 year old car break down you pay to change them either with official parts or after market alternatives (which in the case of a pc those are hundreds of Linux distributions)

josephcsible 3y ago

> The biggest roadblock is usually lack of a TPM 2.0, which Windows requires to improve security for boot, bitlocker, and passwordless auth. We're mad at Microsoft because Windows is still perfectly usable (well, as usable as Windows ever is) without those things, but they refuse to let you install it without one.

orionblastar 3y ago
You can use Rufus: https://rufus.ie/en/ https://rufus.ie/en/ To modify the ISO to turn off hardware check and TPM support for Windows 11 to install it on an unsupported PC. https://github.com/pbatard/rufus/wiki/FAQ#user-content-Help_I_dont_see_the_option_to_bypass_the_need_for_a_Microsoft_account_with_Windows_11 https://github.com/pbatard/rufus/wiki/FAQ#user-content-Help_... Besides Linux and BSD Unix there is: https://reactos.org/ https://reactos.org/ https://aros.sourceforge.io/ https://aros.sourceforge.io/ https://www.haiku-os.org/ https://www.haiku-os.org/ and https://www.arcanoae.com/arcaos/ https://www.arcanoae.com/arcaos/ I know some third-world nations still use DOS and the BORLAND DOS compilers because people donate old computers to their nations. With the right OS, old computers are still usable. Please don't throw them away, e-cycle them so they get used by poor nations that cannot afford new PCs.

tomjen3 3y ago

We are not required to buy a new car if there is a manufacturing issue with the brakes and we should not be required to buy a new laptop to get patches for security issues in paid software.

kyriakos 3y ago
Difference is that if the breaks of your 10 year old car break down you pay to change them either with official parts or after market alternatives (which in the case of a pc those are hundreds of Linux distributions)