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Probably because those usually talking about "extinction" are dogwhistling a race based extinction and are parroting white supremacist talking points. I can't t

by hobs 3y ago

Probably because those usually talking about "extinction" are dogwhistling a race based extinction and are parroting white supremacist talking points. I can't tell if this poster is doing so, but now you know!

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satvikpendem 3y ago
Indeed, I see this quite often, as if some race based boogeyman will take over. It is often an attitude displayed against those with high religiosity, even though the world's overall population growth rate is decreasing and reversing, as even the most religious areas of the world are not having as many kids, predictably because they're getting richer. Getting richer is correlated to not having children, but most of these dog whistlers assume a monotonically increasing number of births, not realizing that most populations are sigmoidal, not linear; eventually, even those races these people are against will slow down having kids, that is what happens everywhere.
- lotsofpulp 3y ago
  And yet that has nothing to do with this conversation, and neither rayiner nor I are white or any kind of race supremacists (presumably from their million posts here). Families are unique social structures, and as much as fast and furious want people to believe a random grouping of people can be a family, the reality is that the probability of an equivalent social bond being built between people who do not share a history is low.
  - satvikpendem 3y ago
    I agree, and I never said you or the other poster are, but it is something that's been observed elsewhere online, which is what I had been commenting on: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_genocide_conspiracy_theory https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_genocide_conspiracy_theo...
junofan 3y ago
Honestly sounds more like basic probability—splitting up large families into small, isolated units. I tried searching for what you’re talking about but couldn’t find anything other than stuff like “white nuclear family hegemony” vis-à-vis the tax code. Maybe I’m just a dumb redneck who grew up around too many white supremacists. Who knows anymore. I feel like if somebody thinks white people are going extinct due to small family units they can just say it on the Internet. Personally I’d love more cousins.

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satvikpendem 3y ago

Indeed, I see this quite often, as if some race based boogeyman will take over. It is often an attitude displayed against those with high religiosity, even though the world's overall population growth rate is decreasing and reversing, as even the most religious areas of the world are not having as many kids, predictably because they're getting richer. Getting richer is correlated to not having children, but most of these dog whistlers assume a monotonically increasing number of births, not realizing that most populations are sigmoidal, not linear; eventually, even those races these people are against will slow down having kids, that is what happens everywhere.

lotsofpulp 3y ago
And yet that has nothing to do with this conversation, and neither rayiner nor I are white or any kind of race supremacists (presumably from their million posts here). Families are unique social structures, and as much as fast and furious want people to believe a random grouping of people can be a family, the reality is that the probability of an equivalent social bond being built between people who do not share a history is low.
- satvikpendem 3y ago
  I agree, and I never said you or the other poster are, but it is something that's been observed elsewhere online, which is what I had been commenting on: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_genocide_conspiracy_theory https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_genocide_conspiracy_theo...

junofan 3y ago

Honestly sounds more like basic probability—splitting up large families into small, isolated units. I tried searching for what you’re talking about but couldn’t find anything other than stuff like “white nuclear family hegemony” vis-à-vis the tax code. Maybe I’m just a dumb redneck who grew up around too many white supremacists. Who knows anymore. I feel like if somebody thinks white people are going extinct due to small family units they can just say it on the Internet. Personally I’d love more cousins.