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> If a site requires a GDPR tracking pop-up Not sure I understand that particular hill for dying on. If they aren't legally required to give you a choice, they

by jdiff 3y ago

> If a site requires a GDPR tracking pop-up Not sure I understand that particular hill for dying on. If they aren't legally required to give you a choice, they're just going to be tracking you unconditionally.

bee_rider 3y ago
Who’s dying on a hill? They can have that hill if they want to die for it! GDPR is great, sites should be required to ask to track. But if they start asking, most sites, I’d rather just leave.
- jdiff 3y ago
  I'm asking why because I don't understand and I would like to understand your perspective. With my current understanding, that seems like a strict downgrade.
  - Brian_K_White 3y ago
    What's so hard to understand? They'd rather filter sites that track in the first place. Sure today, in a world that developed without that, that would remove most of the internet, but so what? That just means their principle vs practical set point lands on a different part of the scale than you, but so does everyone's vs everyone else's. It's a great idea to imagine, if that were somehow possible and the norm, would it still be most of the internet? Would good old unprincipled pragmatic market forces not result in most sites somehow finding a way to be in front of everyone's eyes?
clippyplz 3y ago
I believe their point is that only sites that are tracking you are legally required to give you a choice.
- jdiff 3y ago
  Plenty of sites ignore GDPR, some sites will GDPR just to CYA, some sites have cookie popups just to be polite, "Site with GDPR popup" in reality is a very poor analog for "site that wants to track me." Most sites that want to, especially for those not in the EU, just will, no questions asked.
  - Jensson 3y ago
    > Most sites that want to, especially for those not in the EU, just will, no questions asked. Maybe for most sites, but not for most site visits, since people mostly visit just a few large sites that are too big to ignore the law.

by jdiff 3y ago

bee_rider 3y ago

Who’s dying on a hill? They can have that hill if they want to die for it! GDPR is great, sites should be required to ask to track. But if they start asking, most sites, I’d rather just leave.

jdiff 3y ago
I'm asking why because I don't understand and I would like to understand your perspective. With my current understanding, that seems like a strict downgrade.
- Brian_K_White 3y ago
  What's so hard to understand? They'd rather filter sites that track in the first place. Sure today, in a world that developed without that, that would remove most of the internet, but so what? That just means their principle vs practical set point lands on a different part of the scale than you, but so does everyone's vs everyone else's. It's a great idea to imagine, if that were somehow possible and the norm, would it still be most of the internet? Would good old unprincipled pragmatic market forces not result in most sites somehow finding a way to be in front of everyone's eyes?

clippyplz 3y ago

I believe their point is that only sites that are tracking you are legally required to give you a choice.

jdiff 3y ago
Plenty of sites ignore GDPR, some sites will GDPR just to CYA, some sites have cookie popups just to be polite, "Site with GDPR popup" in reality is a very poor analog for "site that wants to track me." Most sites that want to, especially for those not in the EU, just will, no questions asked.
- Jensson 3y ago
  > Most sites that want to, especially for those not in the EU, just will, no questions asked. Maybe for most sites, but not for most site visits, since people mostly visit just a few large sites that are too big to ignore the law.