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Now, find a way to trigger that without excercise @ win your Nobel prize. Before anybody intervenes, I want to say that excercise is stupid activity and that g
by thriftwy 3y ago
Now, find a way to trigger that without excercise @ win your Nobel prize.
Before anybody intervenes, I want to say that excercise is stupid activity and that gorillas don't excercise that much. Try wrestle with one.
- silverquiet 3y agoI'm pretty sure they're called steroids and while they work better if you exercise, that isn't a requirement.
- thriftwy 3y agoI've heard they're not that healthy. Gorillas on the other hand are. I wonder if there's some floor dosage which is far from affecting your health but already significant in affecting your well-being. Why aren't we all on steroids. Why people who are trying to get rid of fat are not on steroids.
- loeg 3y ago> I've heard they're not that healthy. Gorillas on the other hand are. Are they? Gorillas live to 35-40. Humans live to 80+.
- silverquiet 3y agoI suspect that bodybuilding is unhealthy for a number of reasons and is obviously associated with steroid use. It seems possible to me (and I really don't know that much here) that some amount of steroid use may possibly increase health, but that is not what bodybuilders are interested in. Either way, I do not take them.
- loeg 3y agoThe vast majority of competitive bodybuilders are on very high doses of anabolic steroids (AAS) and compete in an "open" (untested) league. Absurdly high dose AAS use is associated with (at least) a couple kinds of heart disease. It's not good for you. (There are also some "natural" bodybuilders and a smaller tested/natural league.)
- FredPret 3y agoWhy are gorillas healthy? They aren't getting diabetes, sure, but most wild animals teeter on the edge of survival all the time - not a state of vibrant health.
- AmericanChopper 3y ago> Why people who are trying to get rid of fat are not on steroids. A lot of people are. Anavar and Clenbuterol is a very popular fat loss regimen (though likely not acquired via a legitimate prescription very often), and not just for bodybuilders. The amount of middle age men on Testosterone Replacement Therapy is also likely a lot higher than you think it is, and body fat management is one of the more appealing benefits of TRT. The risks of messing with your natural sex hormones never go away though, so there’s always going to be risks that a lot of people don’t want to take. Like high blood pressure, heart disease, suppression of natural testosterone production, hypogonadism (and infertility), gynecomastia… and for women there’s the androgenising effects, as steroids are part of the pharmaceutical side of a gender reassignment for them (which is why it’s not uncommon for some of the larger female bodybuilders to have especially deep voices, or even masculine-looking facial hair).
- loeg 3y agoI just want to clarify a little for other people less familiar with these chemicals. Clenbuterol is not an anabolic steroid, despite being classified as that by WADA. It's more of a stimulant. And no one is prescribing it, at least in the US. The rest of your comment about complications of anabolic steroid use is totally correct.
- AmericanChopper 3y agoYes that’s absolutely correct. To add a little more, stimulants have a rather sordid history as weight loss supplements (almost always ending up banned), being used to increase your basal metabolic rate (burning more energy at rest). Anabolic steroids are used because your body can extract stored energy from both fat and the protein in your muscles, and they ultimately have the net effect of getting your body to extract more of that energy from the fat. Use of either stimulants or anabolics alone would have an effect on body fat, just a greater effect when used together. Of course the better option is to use neither of them, and just have a healthy diet and exercise routine. The health risks are incredibly serious, even if you manage to avoid outright dropping dead at a young age (like many “enhanced” fitness influencers have, such as Zyzz, Jo Linder, Rich Piana…).
- jagraff 3y agoGorillas don't sit at a desk 8 hours a day
- tandr 3y agoSo you haven't seen me WFH yet... phew
- thriftwy 3y agoThey lay under a tree for 12. They aren't that physically active unless they must.
- jerf 3y agoGorillas aren't just "a bit strong" such that it could be explained by different exercise routines; they're stronger than world-class weightlifters. They're not strong because they don't sit at desks, they're strong because their bodies are tuned for strength and because they don't route as much energy to their brains. Contrary to a lot of nature documentaries, homo sapiens has quite a lot of advantages; well above average vision, exquisite muscular control, quite excellent hearing, almost unmatched vocalization abilities, and of course, the supernal brain, among many other attributes of note. But we do quite literally punch well below our weight, by any metric; body size, muscle mass, etc. The sci-fi trope of human being weaker than orcs, weaker than Vulcans, weaker than Klingons, etc. actually has some basis in fact.
- FredPret 3y agoWe're the toughest of the land animals, by far. The only land animals that can match us for endurance are certain breeds of horses and dogs, because we bred them specifically to keep up with us. There are lots of tribes around the world whose hunting tactic is to walk at a particular deer until it falls over dead. We also have really good immune systems, giving us the ability to live all over the world in various filthy conditions without immediately dying from infection. And our digestive systems are very flexible. Some prehistoric people were completely vegeterian, some lived entirely off of fish, etc. Show me an animal that can do all that.
- tanbog5 3y agoWhy would you compare the upper body strength of a human to an primate that evolved to have high upper body strength? I would rather run a marathon against one.
- rschiavone 3y agoGorillas lack myostatin, a protein that inhibits muscle growth in us humans.
- thriftwy 3y agoI wonder what happens if we would break this protein, such as by erasing its start codon. Will we get gorilla strength (and appetite, which is also a good thing in XXI?) I bet somebody out there already has this mutation.
- steve_adams_86 3y agoSurviving is exercise for a gorilla. They carry their mass around, climb with it, occasionally compete with other gorillas, etc. It's also key to consider that they're genetically programmed to develop more muscle mass with relatively large amounts of rest and no need to explicitly work out. Humans have survived in less abundant conditions, with leaner times and lower energy requirements. We've adapted to sacrifice mass and strength at times. In order to develop strength, we need to do hard work. While we're remarkably similar to gorillas, this is one way in which we differ quite a bit.
- thriftwy 3y ago> We've adapted to sacrifice mass and strength at times. Can we please find a way to un-sacrifice mass, un-fit to survive in less abundant conditions? Right now, the food is so abundant it is actively killing us. But we are fat and not muscular. Are we sentient species, after all? I do not joke when I say it would be multiple Nobel prizes. Everybody will get around five quality-adjusted life years on average if you do it correctly.
- simmerup 3y agoArguably it’s the ultra processed food that’s killing us. Some studies show that when we eat whole foods our bodies generally maintain healthy weights
- steve_adams_86 3y ago> Some studies show that when we eat whole foods our bodies generally maintain healthy weights I wonder if it's because it's harder (though not impossible) to eat too much of a well-balanced, whole-food diet.
- simmerup 3y agoIt’s true, but why is it harder? Why is 500g of frozen pizza made up of modified starches and sugary sauce easier to eat and less filling than 500g of sourdough pizza of whole grains and real cheese/tomato Maybe because our body is better equipped to register the calorie intake from the real food
- FredPret 3y agoNot a biologist, but - put that gorilla on a squat program with a couple gallons of milk a day and he'll be even more muscular.
- pawelduda 3y agoMaybe ask gorillas how they trigger that without exercise if they're so cool /s before anyone intervenes
- cmrdporcupine 3y ago> Try wrestle with one. I'd rather snuggle.
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- Tommstein 3y agoAt the risk of blowing your mind, you are not a gorilla.