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Oof. I bet people are reticent to post any comments here. That's good - it's hard to post about this topic in a way that doesn't detract from the overall tone a
by sdsd 3y ago
Oof. I bet people are reticent to post any comments here. That's good - it's hard to post about this topic in a way that doesn't detract from the overall tone and quality of HN.
No one wants to post some James Damore screed decrying the longhouse, nor some 2010s style social justice screed.
No matter which side you argue, you'll get a 1,000 very uninteresting comments from uncurious ideologues doing their duty to defend The Good Truth. I don't like to talk to these partisan soldiers, but rather, curious scouts having fun exploring ideas. Maybe that's because I have the privilege to not take these ideas so personally, or maybe I'm a brave hero speaking out against the HR scolds.
Blegh. It's all so tired. Mom and dad arguing in the other room, about things which are surely much more important than my gameboy, but which nevertheless seem much less interesting to me.
By the time I post, others will have gotten here sooner. We'll see if my pessimism is justified. I'm gonna close my laptop, since clearly I'm procrastinating instead of finishing that keylogging article I'm supposed to be writing. I'll write it at home. I miss my babies.
Hope you all have a merry Christmas btw!
- EA-3167 3y agoIMO some topics can't be meaningfully discussed between a group of largely anonymous people, especially when the existence of... hostile interlocutors is always present. There are people I know offline who I'd avoid discussing these topics with, never mind millions of people I've never met, who's body language I can't see, and who's sincerity I can't identify. As you said, it's tiring, and there are other things to talk about online that don't inevitably lead to the worst possible outcomes.
- MightyBuzzard 3y ago[dead]
- unwise-exe 3y agoThis seems more like a topic that can only be discussed anonymously, lest someone take offense and start a pressure campaign against one's employer. > hostile interlocutors A strong noise filter is indeed required.
- Brian_K_White 3y agoA personal noise filter does not address the problem of instigators. The problem is not that you don't like what they say, the problem is what they say to everyone else and what effect that has.
- Tommstein 3y ago> No one wants to post some James Damore screed decrying the longhouse . . . . Did you read what he actually wrote, instead of just the whines of Googlers and the journalists who amplified them? I ignored the whole thing for a long time, but when I finally read it word for word out of curiosity well after the shitstorm, I thought it was one of the most reasonable and blatantly obvious things I had ever read.
- archagon 3y agoClearly, it made a number of women at the company very uncomfortable. So maybe you’re missing something.
- nvm0n2 3y agoReality can be uncomfortable but that's no excuse for what happened.
- Tommstein 3y agoLiterally anything can make "a number" of people claim to be uncomfortable, especially when it involves an examination of discrimination that favors them. I missed nothing, and I award you an F for your non-rebuttal "rebuttal" of what Damore wrote.
- local_crmdgeon 3y agoLosing your privilege feels like oppression In this case, it's explicit privilege in hiring, promotions, and legal mandates for reporting in layoffs. Seems like he's pushing for equality
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- xvector 3y agoIt's ridiculous to fire someone because they make other people "uncomfortable."
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- JALTU 3y agoFunny, I suppose, that I'm glad people feel they can post here. While I might legitimately have a couple dogs in this "fight" (using this expression more figuratively than not), I consider myself in the "scout" category. So I'm pleased to read what people feel compelled to write. Thanks - and happy holidays!