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Trying to be measured here: Depending on who you ask, you'll find that for gaming, AMD or Intel alternate pretty regularly on technical benchmarks. At the momen

Trying to be measured here: Depending on who you ask, you'll find that for gaming, AMD or Intel alternate pretty regularly on technical benchmarks. At the moment, AMD is most power efficient, on average, and can eek out higher overall benchmark performance (as of late 2023). Throughout 2023, AMD and Intel were both listed as "best" on Toms Hardware, PC Mag, etc etc https://www.pcmag.com/picks/the-best-cpus-for-gaming https://www.pcmag.com/picks/the-best-cpus-for-gaming For server marketshare, intel vastly dominates (80%?). For gaming marketshare, Intel still has 60-70% the marketshare. Even if it's a mixed bag, if given an Intel (or AMD) processor, there's no way I would throw it in the trash and if a current-gen chip, you can find things that either are better than the other with. Both are top-tier accomplishments. AMD has a signifigant fan-following though, which tends to distort the story a little.

greenknight 3y ago
> Their chips are second to none (or perhaps tied for first, depending on who you ask). > For server marketshare, intel vastly dominates (80%?). For gaming marketshare, Intel still has 60-70% the marketshare. Marketshare is one thing, but saying they are the best but the marketshare is 60-70% is a totally different metric. Its saying oh Toyota has the best cars because they ship the most... but they cant be as good as a Lambo / Ferrari because they dont ship the most. In terms of server cpus, if you are looking at raw performance per socket, intel is no where near amd -- https://www.phoronix.com/review/intel-xeon-platinum-8592/10 https://www.phoronix.com/review/intel-xeon-platinum-8592/10 . This is based on Emerald Rapids / Bergamo. In terms of gaming cpus, they definetly are neck and neck with performance. But yes you are right, Intels chips arent something you would throw away in the trash. They are good chips. They need to stick around. Its just that you cant say marketshare makes them the best.
- jvanderbot 3y ago
  I didn't say marketshare makes them the best. I said there were lots of metrics, that on any given metric, AMD and Intel trade first place spots frequently, and marketshare implies there's something special still about Intel.
  - hedora 3y ago
    The only metric I could tease out of that where they are close is single core performance on high wattage enthusiast parts. That’s exactly where the Unix processors were the year before Intel put them out of business. (Except the old Unix machines also won by large margins on multithreading and Intel isn’t winning there anymore).

greenknight 3y ago

> Their chips are second to none (or perhaps tied for first, depending on who you ask). > For server marketshare, intel vastly dominates (80%?). For gaming marketshare, Intel still has 60-70% the marketshare. Marketshare is one thing, but saying they are the best but the marketshare is 60-70% is a totally different metric. Its saying oh Toyota has the best cars because they ship the most... but they cant be as good as a Lambo / Ferrari because they dont ship the most. In terms of server cpus, if you are looking at raw performance per socket, intel is no where near amd -- https://www.phoronix.com/review/intel-xeon-platinum-8592/10 https://www.phoronix.com/review/intel-xeon-platinum-8592/10 . This is based on Emerald Rapids / Bergamo. In terms of gaming cpus, they definetly are neck and neck with performance. But yes you are right, Intels chips arent something you would throw away in the trash. They are good chips. They need to stick around. Its just that you cant say marketshare makes them the best.

jvanderbot 3y ago
I didn't say marketshare makes them the best. I said there were lots of metrics, that on any given metric, AMD and Intel trade first place spots frequently, and marketshare implies there's something special still about Intel.
- hedora 3y ago
  The only metric I could tease out of that where they are close is single core performance on high wattage enthusiast parts. That’s exactly where the Unix processors were the year before Intel put them out of business. (Except the old Unix machines also won by large margins on multithreading and Intel isn’t winning there anymore).