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> so if you switch out of it to another app and back again it resets the state and has to load the model from scratch. This has been my experience anyway ever

> so if you switch out of it to another app and back again it resets the state and has to load the model from scratch. This has been my experience anyway ever since upgrading to iOS 16 (and now 17) anyway. Everything is always paging, even on the latest hardware.

doug_durham 3y ago
There is no paging in iOS. At least paging in the Linux sense. Your apps memory will get evicted when you switch to another app if the system needs it.
- dcdc123 3y ago
  It is up to each app to store their state and resume. One of the most annoying apps for not doing this well is Google Maps. Holy crap I hate when I search something and get a route set and tab out to check something and com eback to a fresh Google Maps like 5 seconds later. They will fix it for a while then break it again several times a year. Once you start navigating it seems pretty reliable but until you hit start it is a shitshow.
  - kergonath 3y ago
    The Google Maps app is atrocious on iOS. So is their website.
    - dcdc123 3y ago
      Other than not always storing state the Google Maps app works quite nicely on iOS.
  - behnamoh 3y ago
    I just switched to Apple Maps and have been pretty happy with it. Uninstalled Google Maps. Telling me that in 2010 would make me laugh at you.
    - dcdc123 3y ago
      Apple Maps is terrible at discovery which is what I am doing with Google Maps 90% of the time.
      - Huppie 3y ago
        I really want to like it, but it's pretty terrible at many things imho. I've tried really hard to switch to Apple Maps but even after three months it simply can't seem to remember I basically drive to 5-6 addresses on a weekly basis. It's always to the parking lot near the office on Monday and Wednesday morning, daycare to pick up the youngest on the way back, swimming pool on Saturday, etc. etc. but navigating to those addresses is always a pain (even selecting it from recent addresses in CarPlay) and it did sent me to the same street as the daycare in a completely different town several times now. While I value not giving more data to google, after three months I decided it simply wasn't worth it. I found the experience (especially the first time it sent me to a completely different town I never go to and I didn't catch it) pretty infuriating.
        VogonPoetry 3y ago
        I'd recommend setting up some Shortcuts with the addresses that can be triggered from Siri. For example, "Siri, we're going to the office", "Siri, let's go swimming", One nit with this is that I haven't been able to make it automatically transition into navigation.
- ghostpepper 3y ago
  do you happen to have a link where I can read more about this?
- ComputerGuru 3y ago
  Yes, I’m aware. I shouldn’t have used that specific verbiage but that was what I meant. Which is worse than paging from a UX perspective since in practice no app does it perfectly (esp if there’s unsaved user input in a textbox).

doug_durham 3y ago

There is no paging in iOS. At least paging in the Linux sense. Your apps memory will get evicted when you switch to another app if the system needs it.

dcdc123 3y ago
It is up to each app to store their state and resume. One of the most annoying apps for not doing this well is Google Maps. Holy crap I hate when I search something and get a route set and tab out to check something and com eback to a fresh Google Maps like 5 seconds later. They will fix it for a while then break it again several times a year. Once you start navigating it seems pretty reliable but until you hit start it is a shitshow.
- kergonath 3y ago
  The Google Maps app is atrocious on iOS. So is their website.
  - dcdc123 3y ago
    Other than not always storing state the Google Maps app works quite nicely on iOS.
- behnamoh 3y ago
  I just switched to Apple Maps and have been pretty happy with it. Uninstalled Google Maps. Telling me that in 2010 would make me laugh at you.
  - dcdc123 3y ago
    Apple Maps is terrible at discovery which is what I am doing with Google Maps 90% of the time.
    - Huppie 3y ago
      I really want to like it, but it's pretty terrible at many things imho. I've tried really hard to switch to Apple Maps but even after three months it simply can't seem to remember I basically drive to 5-6 addresses on a weekly basis. It's always to the parking lot near the office on Monday and Wednesday morning, daycare to pick up the youngest on the way back, swimming pool on Saturday, etc. etc. but navigating to those addresses is always a pain (even selecting it from recent addresses in CarPlay) and it did sent me to the same street as the daycare in a completely different town several times now. While I value not giving more data to google, after three months I decided it simply wasn't worth it. I found the experience (especially the first time it sent me to a completely different town I never go to and I didn't catch it) pretty infuriating.
      - VogonPoetry 3y ago
        I'd recommend setting up some Shortcuts with the addresses that can be triggered from Siri. For example, "Siri, we're going to the office", "Siri, let's go swimming", One nit with this is that I haven't been able to make it automatically transition into navigation.
ghostpepper 3y ago
do you happen to have a link where I can read more about this?
ComputerGuru 3y ago
Yes, I’m aware. I shouldn’t have used that specific verbiage but that was what I meant. Which is worse than paging from a UX perspective since in practice no app does it perfectly (esp if there’s unsaved user input in a textbox).