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No, not life in prison. Detention in a psychiatric hospital for an autistic person who is violently attacking other people. > dozens of reports of injury or pr

No, not life in prison. Detention in a psychiatric hospital for an autistic person who is violently attacking other people. > dozens of reports of injury or property damage

SpaghettiCthulu 3y ago
"Reports", not evidence.
zymhan 3y ago
"indefinite detention" as well, meaning the duration is not defined, but it's "infinite detention". However, the article was definitely updated at some point, as others in the thread have pointed out. I read it earlier today and it did state life in detention. That is certainly not helping the discussion out, unfortunately.
- dghlsakjg 3y ago
  The detention is of indefinite length, but has clear conditions for his release, which is what a lot of people seem to be missing.
BobaFloutist 3y ago
Though we don't consider it such, because we accept that police are needed to maintain some level of order and it's not good when people resist arrest, the violence was more or less in self-defense. I think there's a huge difference between someone (especially someone with "severe autism") lashing out when getting more or less abducted and removed from a familiar environment by force (even if we'd prefer they stay calm) and someone attacking someone else out of the blue. What do you want to bet they didn't follow best practices for arresting an autistic person?
- jamespo 3y ago
  Source for these claims?
  - BobaFloutist 3y ago
    Which claim? My comment was almost entirely opinion.
- fnordpiglet 3y ago
  At least state side resisting arrest can be stopping an officers fist with your head, or putting your hands up to block being hit. The bar is so low and the penalties can be absurdly high, including felony charges in many states. It’s basically a way of enhancing charges or creating charges where there’s not enough evidence to produce other charges, and almost always used as a plea bargain cudgel.

No, not life in prison. Detention in a psychiatric hospital for an autistic person who is violently attacking other people. > dozens of reports of injury or property damage

SpaghettiCthulu 3y ago

"Reports", not evidence.

zymhan 3y ago

"indefinite detention" as well, meaning the duration is not defined, but it's "infinite detention". However, the article was definitely updated at some point, as others in the thread have pointed out. I read it earlier today and it did state life in detention. That is certainly not helping the discussion out, unfortunately.

dghlsakjg 3y ago
The detention is of indefinite length, but has clear conditions for his release, which is what a lot of people seem to be missing.

BobaFloutist 3y ago

Though we don't consider it such, because we accept that police are needed to maintain some level of order and it's not good when people resist arrest, the violence was more or less in self-defense. I think there's a huge difference between someone (especially someone with "severe autism") lashing out when getting more or less abducted and removed from a familiar environment by force (even if we'd prefer they stay calm) and someone attacking someone else out of the blue. What do you want to bet they didn't follow best practices for arresting an autistic person?

jamespo 3y ago
Source for these claims?
- BobaFloutist 3y ago
  Which claim? My comment was almost entirely opinion.
fnordpiglet 3y ago
At least state side resisting arrest can be stopping an officers fist with your head, or putting your hands up to block being hit. The bar is so low and the penalties can be absurdly high, including felony charges in many states. It’s basically a way of enhancing charges or creating charges where there’s not enough evidence to produce other charges, and almost always used as a plea bargain cudgel.