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Are you okay with Apple not supporting RCS on their phones? As far as I can tell, that strictly worsens your experience as a user.

_Microft 3y ago
I was not familiar with RCS yet but according to Wikipedia, Apple will begin to support RCS in 2024. On the other hand, this doesn’t exactly inspire confidence that it is going to be a polished experience: „Not all RCS functions defined in the standard are offered by every network and every client; only the services that are available to two communication partners are also offered in the client.“ (translated from the German Wikipedia article).
- forty 3y ago
  That's one of the point of the article. It's not known whether the RCS implementation of apple will be interoperable with Android's.
Grustaf 3y ago
I’ve had iPhones for ten years and never once cared about RCS. Never even heard of it until recently, and I don’t think anyone I know has ever heard of it. It’s very very niche to care at all about it.
- Centigonal 3y ago
  While "RCS" is an obscure standard nobody cares about, "being able to send reactions, high-res photos, videos, and voice memos in text messages" is a pretty universal concern. iPhone support for RCS would let iPhone users have those features in conversations with the green-messages.
  - Grustaf 3y ago
    I never once wished I was able to do that, the only application for that would be to communicate with android users that for some reason refuse to use whatsapp, fb messages, telegram or any of the numerous cross platform that do that. Why would anyone want to do this specifically using the sms protocol?
    - Centigonal 3y ago
      Dating :upside_down_face: Also, some of my friends and family aren't on those apps and exclusively use SMS/iMessage.
      - Grustaf 3y ago
        The point is that I don’t care about doing these things specifically over SMS. I send photos, voice memos etc over apps like whatsapp. It wouldn’t improve my life one iota to be able to do that with some legacy protocol.
        int_19h 3y ago
        What people care about is doing these things over something that is universal enough. In some places WhatsApp is so pervasive that it's that; in others, a mandated standard like SMS or RCS is the best you can hope for.
        Grustaf 3y ago
        Whatsapp is universally available as far as I know. If people choose not to use a universally available, free and secure alternative, it would seem that universality is not the main driving factor.
        int_19h 3y ago
        Network effects are a thing. Mere availability of WhatsApp (or Signal, or whatever) doesn't do you any good if all the people you actually need to talk to don't have it installed.
        Grustaf 3y ago
        Yes but you can’t fault Apple for people freely choosing to use one app over another, especially when they do nothing at all to discourage whatsapp and the other third party alternatives.

_Microft 3y ago

I was not familiar with RCS yet but according to Wikipedia, Apple will begin to support RCS in 2024. On the other hand, this doesn’t exactly inspire confidence that it is going to be a polished experience: „Not all RCS functions defined in the standard are offered by every network and every client; only the services that are available to two communication partners are also offered in the client.“ (translated from the German Wikipedia article).

forty 3y ago
That's one of the point of the article. It's not known whether the RCS implementation of apple will be interoperable with Android's.

Grustaf 3y ago

I’ve had iPhones for ten years and never once cared about RCS. Never even heard of it until recently, and I don’t think anyone I know has ever heard of it. It’s very very niche to care at all about it.

Centigonal 3y ago
While "RCS" is an obscure standard nobody cares about, "being able to send reactions, high-res photos, videos, and voice memos in text messages" is a pretty universal concern. iPhone support for RCS would let iPhone users have those features in conversations with the green-messages.
- Grustaf 3y ago
  I never once wished I was able to do that, the only application for that would be to communicate with android users that for some reason refuse to use whatsapp, fb messages, telegram or any of the numerous cross platform that do that. Why would anyone want to do this specifically using the sms protocol?
  - Centigonal 3y ago
    Dating :upside_down_face: Also, some of my friends and family aren't on those apps and exclusively use SMS/iMessage.
    - Grustaf 3y ago
      The point is that I don’t care about doing these things specifically over SMS. I send photos, voice memos etc over apps like whatsapp. It wouldn’t improve my life one iota to be able to do that with some legacy protocol.
      - int_19h 3y ago
        What people care about is doing these things over something that is universal enough. In some places WhatsApp is so pervasive that it's that; in others, a mandated standard like SMS or RCS is the best you can hope for.
        Grustaf 3y ago
        Whatsapp is universally available as far as I know. If people choose not to use a universally available, free and secure alternative, it would seem that universality is not the main driving factor.
        int_19h 3y ago
        Network effects are a thing. Mere availability of WhatsApp (or Signal, or whatever) doesn't do you any good if all the people you actually need to talk to don't have it installed.
        Grustaf 3y ago
        Yes but you can’t fault Apple for people freely choosing to use one app over another, especially when they do nothing at all to discourage whatsapp and the other third party alternatives.