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> RTFA. They tried restricting him, and he used a fire stick and a a phone to commit another major breach while out on bail. Then he told the court that he plan

> RTFA. They tried restricting him, and he used a fire stick and a a phone to commit another major breach while out on bail. Then he told the court that he planned to keep hacking if he was released again. I did RTFA. I'm saying he could have been denied access to any electronic devices without supervision, which I think would be a better alternative.

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miki123211 3y ago
define "electronic devices." What about credit cards? aTMs? Self-service checkouts? PIN pads (the things Europeans have to use in stores to pay by card)? Ticket machines and turnstiles? cars? radios? TVS? All of these sound pretty harmless and are necessary to have a life these days, but he did demonstrate that he can use a TV for hacking.
- PrimeMcFly 3y ago
  > define "electronic devices." Smartphones and computers, anything with a keyboard and internet connection, and sufficient freedom to go anywhere eon the internet from the device. > (the things Europeans have to use in stores to pay by card I mean those are in every country. PINs are not always needed for credit card purchases but they are for debit card purchases. > but he did demonstrate that he can use a TV for hacking. A smart TV in conjunction with a phone and a firestick. No reason he couldn't have a dumb TV.
  - solumunus 3y ago
    How can you possibly restrict someone from using electronic devices? This sounds entirely unenforceable without imprisonment.
    - PrimeMcFly 3y ago
      There has been such enforcement while people are on probation, I don't see why it couldn't be longterm.
      - dghlsakjg 3y ago
        That requires voluntary compliance from the offender. He was already released on bail with that condition, and that's when he hacked Rockstar. He has also told the court that he would continue hacking if released.
        PrimeMcFly 3y ago
        > That requires voluntary compliance from the offender. Not it doesn't, it just requires more supervision from his probation officer or whatever. Put him on house arrest with an ankle bracelet, it's still better than being in a psych ward.

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miki123211 3y ago

define "electronic devices." What about credit cards? aTMs? Self-service checkouts? PIN pads (the things Europeans have to use in stores to pay by card)? Ticket machines and turnstiles? cars? radios? TVS? All of these sound pretty harmless and are necessary to have a life these days, but he did demonstrate that he can use a TV for hacking.

PrimeMcFly 3y ago
> define "electronic devices." Smartphones and computers, anything with a keyboard and internet connection, and sufficient freedom to go anywhere eon the internet from the device. > (the things Europeans have to use in stores to pay by card I mean those are in every country. PINs are not always needed for credit card purchases but they are for debit card purchases. > but he did demonstrate that he can use a TV for hacking. A smart TV in conjunction with a phone and a firestick. No reason he couldn't have a dumb TV.
- solumunus 3y ago
  How can you possibly restrict someone from using electronic devices? This sounds entirely unenforceable without imprisonment.
  - PrimeMcFly 3y ago
    There has been such enforcement while people are on probation, I don't see why it couldn't be longterm.
    - dghlsakjg 3y ago
      That requires voluntary compliance from the offender. He was already released on bail with that condition, and that's when he hacked Rockstar. He has also told the court that he would continue hacking if released.
      - PrimeMcFly 3y ago
        > That requires voluntary compliance from the offender. Not it doesn't, it just requires more supervision from his probation officer or whatever. Put him on house arrest with an ankle bracelet, it's still better than being in a psych ward.