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because everyone thinks they're above average. If you're only better than the below average drivers, then everyone will think they're better off driving themsel

because everyone thinks they're above average. If you're only better than the below average drivers, then everyone will think they're better off driving themselves even if that's not true. Also, we've accepted and made legal frameworks around the concept that people sometimes kill each other with cars. Robots killing people with cars does not benefit from this carve out.

strangattractor 3y ago
It is only a matter of time before that changes.
throwaway2037 3y ago
I am a terrible driver -- so easily distracted. Almost zero men I have met in my life are willing to admit the same. (However, some women in my life do.) As a result, I try to avoid driving as much as possible and use mass transit.
whatever1 3y ago
The average data include literal drug addicts and people driving under alcohol influence or people who drive distracted while texting. I am neither, hence I will not trust any system that does not perform at least as well as I do. The bar is much higher than the average.
- throw10920 3y ago
  > hence I will not trust any system that does not perform at least as well as I do. ...which is a pretty big fallacy and, if implemented as law (which I am working to make sure it is not), will get a lot of people killed. Literal drug addicts, people driving under the influence of alcohol, and people driving distracted are driving right now. Even AV that performs at the level of the median driver will massively reduce the number of those people actually making driving decisions, and therefore directly reduce road deaths. Why? Because most accidents and deaths are caused by drivers performing at the low end of the spectrum. In the US, a full third of accidents are caused by drunk driving - which would be virtually nonexistent with AVs ("virtually" because the AVs aren't going to be perfect and are going to need manual intervention). The bar is literally the average, because if everyone drove average, deaths would plummet. And, unlike the American public, it's massively easier to improve AV driving behavior than average human driver behavior. A system that starts out eliminating the lower end of driving performance while improving over time is a deal too good to turn down if you care about human life.

strangattractor 3y ago

It is only a matter of time before that changes.

throwaway2037 3y ago

I am a terrible driver -- so easily distracted. Almost zero men I have met in my life are willing to admit the same. (However, some women in my life do.) As a result, I try to avoid driving as much as possible and use mass transit.

whatever1 3y ago

The average data include literal drug addicts and people driving under alcohol influence or people who drive distracted while texting. I am neither, hence I will not trust any system that does not perform at least as well as I do. The bar is much higher than the average.

throw10920 3y ago
> hence I will not trust any system that does not perform at least as well as I do. ...which is a pretty big fallacy and, if implemented as law (which I am working to make sure it is not), will get a lot of people killed. Literal drug addicts, people driving under the influence of alcohol, and people driving distracted are driving right now. Even AV that performs at the level of the median driver will massively reduce the number of those people actually making driving decisions, and therefore directly reduce road deaths. Why? Because most accidents and deaths are caused by drivers performing at the low end of the spectrum. In the US, a full third of accidents are caused by drunk driving - which would be virtually nonexistent with AVs ("virtually" because the AVs aren't going to be perfect and are going to need manual intervention). The bar is literally the average, because if everyone drove average, deaths would plummet. And, unlike the American public, it's massively easier to improve AV driving behavior than average human driver behavior. A system that starts out eliminating the lower end of driving performance while improving over time is a deal too good to turn down if you care about human life.