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Russian Wikipedia will continue without the Wikimedia chapter, for clarity. It's not going offline.

by intunderflow 3y ago

baybal2 3y ago
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Yizahi 3y ago
Of course they will. They are busy rewriting history under Kremlin directives.
- foverzar 3y ago
  Who are "they"? It's still the same website on the same wikipedia domain, owned and hosted by the same global Wikimedia Foundation, with the same editors, roles and permissions. P.S. Kinda funny how the narrative of "THEY are rewriting history" is now present in both opposing blocks. These are truly the end times of objectivity and pluralism.
  - Yizahi 3y ago
    People writing and moderating Ru Wikipedia. Go check yourself, with a Google translate for example. Their pettiness know no bounds, see articles on the Kievan Rus (they even tried to rename it a few times), downing of MH17 Boeing, Russian invasion and occupation of Georgia, Russian invasion and occupation of Ukraine since Feb 2014, basically anything touching history and politics. It is quite clear that Ru Wikipedia is a state sanctioned and controlled operation.
  - toyg 3y ago
    There was never any objectivity. As a European, I often find mainstream US media scandalously biased on certain topics. Even just seeing everything as "two opposing blocks" is a terrible simplification of reality that is typical of Anglosphere traditions. And pluralism is arguably as alive as ever - anyone can start a blog and be as successful as anyone else in pushing opinions, without the capital that used to be required to broadcast one's view of the world. If anything, the current problem is that the spectrum of political debate has widened so much that we struggle to contain it in the old institutions.
- duskwuff 3y ago
  I think you're misreading the situation rather dramatically here. Wikimedia Russia was an outreach organization; their role was primarily to run local conferences and fundraise. Its closure has no impact on the operations and policies of the Russian Wikipedia and other localized projects -- which are, in any event, focused on the language, not the country. (By way of analogy, notice that the Chinese Wikipedia is still operational, despite the site having been blocked in mainland China nearly since its inception.)
GuB-42 3y ago
Worth noting that "Russian Wikipedia" here is "Wikipedia in the Russian language", not "Wikipedia of the country of Russia". There is no country specific Wikipedia, just different languages.

Russian Wikipedia will continue without the Wikimedia chapter, for clarity. It's not going offline.

baybal2 3y ago

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Yizahi 3y ago

Of course they will. They are busy rewriting history under Kremlin directives.

foverzar 3y ago
Who are "they"? It's still the same website on the same wikipedia domain, owned and hosted by the same global Wikimedia Foundation, with the same editors, roles and permissions. P.S. Kinda funny how the narrative of "THEY are rewriting history" is now present in both opposing blocks. These are truly the end times of objectivity and pluralism.
- Yizahi 3y ago
  People writing and moderating Ru Wikipedia. Go check yourself, with a Google translate for example. Their pettiness know no bounds, see articles on the Kievan Rus (they even tried to rename it a few times), downing of MH17 Boeing, Russian invasion and occupation of Georgia, Russian invasion and occupation of Ukraine since Feb 2014, basically anything touching history and politics. It is quite clear that Ru Wikipedia is a state sanctioned and controlled operation.
- toyg 3y ago
  There was never any objectivity. As a European, I often find mainstream US media scandalously biased on certain topics. Even just seeing everything as "two opposing blocks" is a terrible simplification of reality that is typical of Anglosphere traditions. And pluralism is arguably as alive as ever - anyone can start a blog and be as successful as anyone else in pushing opinions, without the capital that used to be required to broadcast one's view of the world. If anything, the current problem is that the spectrum of political debate has widened so much that we struggle to contain it in the old institutions.
duskwuff 3y ago
I think you're misreading the situation rather dramatically here. Wikimedia Russia was an outreach organization; their role was primarily to run local conferences and fundraise. Its closure has no impact on the operations and policies of the Russian Wikipedia and other localized projects -- which are, in any event, focused on the language, not the country. (By way of analogy, notice that the Chinese Wikipedia is still operational, despite the site having been blocked in mainland China nearly since its inception.)

GuB-42 3y ago

Worth noting that "Russian Wikipedia" here is "Wikipedia in the Russian language", not "Wikipedia of the country of Russia". There is no country specific Wikipedia, just different languages.