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He is being met with treatment instead of punishment. He stole and extorted, assaulted people, and destroyed property and was convicted of actual crimes. They

He is being met with treatment instead of punishment. He stole and extorted, assaulted people, and destroyed property and was convicted of actual crimes. They did try to meet him at his level. They released him pending bail and he committed more crimes. He told the court that if they released him he would continue committing crimes. They aren’t sending him to prison though, because he isn’t mentally fit. They are sending him for medical treatment, at no cost to him, until he is determined to no longer be a threat to himself or others. This seems far more humane than sending a mentally unwell teenager to prison where he certainly wouldn’t get the level of care that he will now.

thomastjeffery 3y ago
The primary crimes we are talking about are not the violent ones. They are hacking. You are welcome to disagree with me, but I don't believe hacking Rockstar to get a peek under the curtain should be a crime. So what if we took that part out of the story? What would change? Everything. The whole story would be completely different. --- Call it treatment all you want. The goal has already been laid out, and it's not rehabilitation. Have you ever been in a mental hospital? They do important work, but that doesn't change the reality of what they are. It's a prison with carpets. Trained guards are prepared, not only to detain you, but even to sedate you. Yes, they exist for treatment, but that doesn't make them a good fit for everyone. We can, and should try other avenues first. I'm not content to throw up my hands and give up on this person. I'm not content to accept this system as the best our society can provide.
drewcoo 3y ago
> He is being met with treatment instead of punishment. Treatment? From the article: > He will remain at a secure hospital for life unless doctors deem him no longer a danger. That sounds like punishment. For indefinitely long. Without even a trial. If this were about treatment, we'd have details about how he'll be treated and for how long and the chances of success. Instead, we hear only about his punishment and vague scare-mongering about why it's necessary.

thomastjeffery 3y ago

The primary crimes we are talking about are not the violent ones. They are hacking. You are welcome to disagree with me, but I don't believe hacking Rockstar to get a peek under the curtain should be a crime. So what if we took that part out of the story? What would change? Everything. The whole story would be completely different. --- Call it treatment all you want. The goal has already been laid out, and it's not rehabilitation. Have you ever been in a mental hospital? They do important work, but that doesn't change the reality of what they are. It's a prison with carpets. Trained guards are prepared, not only to detain you, but even to sedate you. Yes, they exist for treatment, but that doesn't make them a good fit for everyone. We can, and should try other avenues first. I'm not content to throw up my hands and give up on this person. I'm not content to accept this system as the best our society can provide.

drewcoo 3y ago

> He is being met with treatment instead of punishment. Treatment? From the article: > He will remain at a secure hospital for life unless doctors deem him no longer a danger. That sounds like punishment. For indefinitely long. Without even a trial. If this were about treatment, we'd have details about how he'll be treated and for how long and the chances of success. Instead, we hear only about his punishment and vague scare-mongering about why it's necessary.