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This is surprising because gas cooking is considered a "premium" feature here in NC, and people look for it during their house search. Personally, it is a bette

This is surprising because gas cooking is considered a "premium" feature here in NC, and people look for it during their house search. Personally, it is a better cooking experience than electric. Induction might be the best, but it's still expensive.

hasty_pudding 3y ago
I would literally buy propane camping stove and a big bottle of propane rather than use an electrical stove.
- PCI-eX16 3y ago
  Why is that?
  - hasty_pudding 3y ago
    Latency on adjustments primarily. If you're cooking a roux for example or sauteing garlic, 30 second latency is enough to ruin them. Also, I have a feeling that the heat is distributed more evenly but no concrete evidence on that.
- wharvle 3y ago
  Resistive electric? I’m with you, I truly would just go for my own propane supply before going back to that crap. But you can get propane conversion kits for natural gas ranges, no need to get the camping stove. I haven’t had a chance to try electric induction yet. I don’t know anyone who has one.
bwb 3y ago
That might be a bit of propaganda from the gas industry over the last 50 years. I heard similar but when i dug into it appeared to be bunk… i cook on electric now and love it.
- ska 3y ago
  > That might be a bit of propaganda Not really, there are a number of techniques that are harder (some not possible) on electric which has less control and high latency. But ... it only matters if you are going to use such techniques.
  - wharvle 3y ago
    I can’t even cook scrambled eggs well on resistive electric. I mean, I can, but they won’t come out as good and there’s a much higher likelihood I’ll ruin them. Delicate sauces? Getting a custard to come together just right? Maybe some people can, but me, forget about it. This is basic stuff, too, I don’t even know how to do anything fancy. I know that when I finally tried gas it was like “oh, I can cook now!” Toasting flatbread and tortillas directly on the burners is handy. IDK if I can do any of that on induction. I’ve only seen those in-person at the store and at one airbnb. We have a working gas stove and induction’s expensive, so I doubt I’ll own one for another decade or so, at least.
    - RetpolineDrama 3y ago
      Induction is faster, more precise, more efficient/green, safer, and most importantly not spewing toxic crap into your kitchen/living room where you presumably spend time with your family/children. Even with an externally-vented vent hood (most dump back into the room) + make up air system (that most do not have) gas ranges still contaminate your kitchen.
  - bsder 3y ago
    On old school electric. Induction is way better for control and latency than gas. The only issue is if you need to genuinely ignite something (like in wok cooking--but, then, get a blowtorch--if it's good enough for J. Kenji Lopez-Alt it's good enough for you). One real problem is that the standalone induction burners are only 110V in the US and that hamstrings them dramatically. Induction cooktops, however, do not suffer from that issue as they will be wired into 208/220V.
    - 3y ago
JohnFen 3y ago
It's the opposite where I am. People tend to avoid gas. I've even seen people go to the extent of having gas service physically removed from houses they've bought.
- infecto 3y ago
  Where is that generally? I am super conscious of air quality, would flip my stove but not sure I would rip out gas heat unless it already needed replacement.
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  - JohnFen 3y ago
    I would prefer not to say very specifically, but I'm in a part of the US where electricity is less expensive than gas, which is probably the largest reason why people avoid gas around here. Also, the majority of houses never had gas piped to them in the first place. Most people are used to electric and it's a nonissue for them, so there is little desire to use gas.
dfxm12 3y ago
As the article says, gas cooking is poor for our health & the environment. Utility firms have to fight against buyers who are getting more educated about this, along with stricter codes also informed by this knowledge. At some level, you have to decide where you want to be on the axis between your cooking experience & your child's health (if that's a concern in your situation). If you feel induction is too expensive, you may qualify for assistance, under a state program or under the inflation reduction act. Other than that, it's become a bit of an ID Pol issue [0], [1], [2], so I can see why considering it "premium" would be a thing in a sorta purple, sorta red state. 0 - https://www.mediaite.com/tv/fox-guest-alleges-electric-stoves-are-part-of-government-conspiracy-eventually-they-can-control-that-stove/ https://www.mediaite.com/tv/fox-guest-alleges-electric-stove... 1 - https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/5-ways-biden-still-coming-your-gas-stove https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/5-ways-biden-still-coming-yo... 2 - https://www.axios.com/2023/01/12/gas-stoves-conservative-backlash https://www.axios.com/2023/01/12/gas-stoves-conservative-bac...
- legitster 3y ago
  The correlation between gas and children's asthma is pretty weak. And there are already existing correlations between gas usage and cold climates, and cold climates and children's asthma. There are also strong correlations between electricity in the home and harm to children, but anyone in their reasonable mind would understand that you can improve consumer protections. So it's a bit of whataboutism to imply that only gas users are making safety tradeoffs.

hasty_pudding 3y ago

I would literally buy propane camping stove and a big bottle of propane rather than use an electrical stove.

PCI-eX16 3y ago
Why is that?
- hasty_pudding 3y ago
  Latency on adjustments primarily. If you're cooking a roux for example or sauteing garlic, 30 second latency is enough to ruin them. Also, I have a feeling that the heat is distributed more evenly but no concrete evidence on that.
wharvle 3y ago
Resistive electric? I’m with you, I truly would just go for my own propane supply before going back to that crap. But you can get propane conversion kits for natural gas ranges, no need to get the camping stove. I haven’t had a chance to try electric induction yet. I don’t know anyone who has one.

bwb 3y ago

That might be a bit of propaganda from the gas industry over the last 50 years. I heard similar but when i dug into it appeared to be bunk… i cook on electric now and love it.

ska 3y ago
> That might be a bit of propaganda Not really, there are a number of techniques that are harder (some not possible) on electric which has less control and high latency. But ... it only matters if you are going to use such techniques.
- wharvle 3y ago
  I can’t even cook scrambled eggs well on resistive electric. I mean, I can, but they won’t come out as good and there’s a much higher likelihood I’ll ruin them. Delicate sauces? Getting a custard to come together just right? Maybe some people can, but me, forget about it. This is basic stuff, too, I don’t even know how to do anything fancy. I know that when I finally tried gas it was like “oh, I can cook now!” Toasting flatbread and tortillas directly on the burners is handy. IDK if I can do any of that on induction. I’ve only seen those in-person at the store and at one airbnb. We have a working gas stove and induction’s expensive, so I doubt I’ll own one for another decade or so, at least.
  - RetpolineDrama 3y ago
    Induction is faster, more precise, more efficient/green, safer, and most importantly not spewing toxic crap into your kitchen/living room where you presumably spend time with your family/children. Even with an externally-vented vent hood (most dump back into the room) + make up air system (that most do not have) gas ranges still contaminate your kitchen.
- bsder 3y ago
  On old school electric. Induction is way better for control and latency than gas. The only issue is if you need to genuinely ignite something (like in wok cooking--but, then, get a blowtorch--if it's good enough for J. Kenji Lopez-Alt it's good enough for you). One real problem is that the standalone induction burners are only 110V in the US and that hamstrings them dramatically. Induction cooktops, however, do not suffer from that issue as they will be wired into 208/220V.
  - 3y ago

JohnFen 3y ago

It's the opposite where I am. People tend to avoid gas. I've even seen people go to the extent of having gas service physically removed from houses they've bought.

infecto 3y ago
Where is that generally? I am super conscious of air quality, would flip my stove but not sure I would rip out gas heat unless it already needed replacement.
- deleted 3y ago
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- JohnFen 3y ago
  I would prefer not to say very specifically, but I'm in a part of the US where electricity is less expensive than gas, which is probably the largest reason why people avoid gas around here. Also, the majority of houses never had gas piped to them in the first place. Most people are used to electric and it's a nonissue for them, so there is little desire to use gas.

dfxm12 3y ago

As the article says, gas cooking is poor for our health & the environment. Utility firms have to fight against buyers who are getting more educated about this, along with stricter codes also informed by this knowledge. At some level, you have to decide where you want to be on the axis between your cooking experience & your child's health (if that's a concern in your situation). If you feel induction is too expensive, you may qualify for assistance, under a state program or under the inflation reduction act. Other than that, it's become a bit of an ID Pol issue [0], [1], [2], so I can see why considering it "premium" would be a thing in a sorta purple, sorta red state. 0 - https://www.mediaite.com/tv/fox-guest-alleges-electric-stoves-are-part-of-government-conspiracy-eventually-they-can-control-that-stove/ https://www.mediaite.com/tv/fox-guest-alleges-electric-stove... 1 - https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/5-ways-biden-still-coming-your-gas-stove https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/5-ways-biden-still-coming-yo... 2 - https://www.axios.com/2023/01/12/gas-stoves-conservative-backlash https://www.axios.com/2023/01/12/gas-stoves-conservative-bac...

legitster 3y ago
The correlation between gas and children's asthma is pretty weak. And there are already existing correlations between gas usage and cold climates, and cold climates and children's asthma. There are also strong correlations between electricity in the home and harm to children, but anyone in their reasonable mind would understand that you can improve consumer protections. So it's a bit of whataboutism to imply that only gas users are making safety tradeoffs.