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I don’t think it’s unique to the US, but it’s unique to the US among wealthy well functioning democracies. Most of the other countries where police abuse is ra

I don’t think it’s unique to the US, but it’s unique to the US among wealthy well functioning democracies. Most of the other countries where police abuse is rampant are poorer deeply corrupt countries, India is a great example in fact. India is at least a democracy, but it’s very much still developing and has corruption at nearly every level and facet of society, including police abuses. It’s nearly the opposite of well functioning.

giraffe_lady 3y ago
France? And in Canada the police are detested by indigenous people for their long and consistent history of horrific treatment for example but not limited to the "starlight tours." These are the only non-american countries I have first hand knowledge of but it's enough for me to realize the problem is not limited to the US and developing nations. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saskatoon_freezing_deaths https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saskatoon_freezing_deaths
- tristor 3y ago
  I'm not sure what your point is? Every country on Earth historically has treated their indigenous peoples badly. Most still do. I'm not trying to boil the ocean or solve racism (assuming it's even solvable) here, I'm simply saying we have existing mechanisms to hold police accountable and we've simply decided as a society to not do so, and we should instead to decide to hold them accountable and to raise our standards for being a police officer. I'm sorry I didn't enumerate every bad thing the police have ever done in every single country on Earth. I don't really know what you're expecting from the reply you made to me?
  - giraffe_lady 3y ago
    I'm saying the bad things american cops do are also things all the non-american cops do. The bad things are part of police, not the US. We may let them go farther than is the norm in similarly wealthy countries but they don't get up to qualitatively different stuff.

giraffe_lady 3y ago

France? And in Canada the police are detested by indigenous people for their long and consistent history of horrific treatment for example but not limited to the "starlight tours." These are the only non-american countries I have first hand knowledge of but it's enough for me to realize the problem is not limited to the US and developing nations. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saskatoon_freezing_deaths https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saskatoon_freezing_deaths

tristor 3y ago
I'm not sure what your point is? Every country on Earth historically has treated their indigenous peoples badly. Most still do. I'm not trying to boil the ocean or solve racism (assuming it's even solvable) here, I'm simply saying we have existing mechanisms to hold police accountable and we've simply decided as a society to not do so, and we should instead to decide to hold them accountable and to raise our standards for being a police officer. I'm sorry I didn't enumerate every bad thing the police have ever done in every single country on Earth. I don't really know what you're expecting from the reply you made to me?
- giraffe_lady 3y ago
  I'm saying the bad things american cops do are also things all the non-american cops do. The bad things are part of police, not the US. We may let them go farther than is the norm in similarly wealthy countries but they don't get up to qualitatively different stuff.