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You have to recognize these as the right-wing dogwhistles that they are. The idea that autonomous driving and vehicle electrification are control strategies by

You have to recognize these as the right-wing dogwhistles that they are. The idea that autonomous driving and vehicle electrification are control strategies by an oppressive deep state are constantly pushed on far-right social media.

porkbeer 3y ago
Why does it matter what people push that idea if there is some truth to it?
rajup 3y ago
> autonomous driving and vehicle electrification are control strategies by an oppressive deep state Wait.. what? That’s definitely a new one to me…
- jeffbee 3y ago
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Spivak 3y ago
Welp, I'm as left as they come in these parts. Literally a card carrying socialist so I'm not consciously dog whistling anything. Tech is already inundated with corporations using technology to maintain an iron grip on their products against their users interest and I'm just sad to see that autonomous driving seems to be the excuse to extend this grip further with always-on connectivity that you can't turn off "for safety" that will also conveniently used for even more tracking. I don't think it will be used for population control or anything like that but I expect it will be expand the already existing police remote shutdown. Autonomous cars that are truly autonomous would be amazing. But what I fear we'll get is DrivingAsAService and regulatory capture.
- jeffbee 3y ago
  > I'm as left as they come I am pleased to introduce you to: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horseshoe_theory https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horseshoe_theory
  - Spivak 3y ago
    I thought about that when I wrote that but I ended up landing on that it didn't apply because I'm not anywhere near right-wing social media and had no idea this was even a conspiracy. I was just like the last thing in the universe I want is for a company to exercise Apple like control over my car. And despite making no logical sense companies seem to be using EVs and self-driving as an excuse to create artificial lock-in and add even more data collection. New and "different" seems to mean you're allowed to break consumer expectations for the worse.

porkbeer 3y ago

Why does it matter what people push that idea if there is some truth to it?

rajup 3y ago

> autonomous driving and vehicle electrification are control strategies by an oppressive deep state Wait.. what? That’s definitely a new one to me…

jeffbee 3y ago
Starter pack: https://www.tiktok.com/find/real-agenda-behind-electric-cars https://www.tiktok.com/find/real-agenda-behind-electric-cars

Spivak 3y ago

Welp, I'm as left as they come in these parts. Literally a card carrying socialist so I'm not consciously dog whistling anything. Tech is already inundated with corporations using technology to maintain an iron grip on their products against their users interest and I'm just sad to see that autonomous driving seems to be the excuse to extend this grip further with always-on connectivity that you can't turn off "for safety" that will also conveniently used for even more tracking. I don't think it will be used for population control or anything like that but I expect it will be expand the already existing police remote shutdown. Autonomous cars that are truly autonomous would be amazing. But what I fear we'll get is DrivingAsAService and regulatory capture.

jeffbee 3y ago
> I'm as left as they come I am pleased to introduce you to: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horseshoe_theory https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horseshoe_theory
- Spivak 3y ago
  I thought about that when I wrote that but I ended up landing on that it didn't apply because I'm not anywhere near right-wing social media and had no idea this was even a conspiracy. I was just like the last thing in the universe I want is for a company to exercise Apple like control over my car. And despite making no logical sense companies seem to be using EVs and self-driving as an excuse to create artificial lock-in and add even more data collection. New and "different" seems to mean you're allowed to break consumer expectations for the worse.