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It’s not life in prison. He’s being confined to a mental institution due to severe autism. It’s unlikely that he can be rehabilitated and would remain a cyber

It’s not life in prison. He’s being confined to a mental institution due to severe autism. It’s unlikely that he can be rehabilitated and would remain a cyber security threat to society if released in the future. This is hardly revenge.

lemmetaste 3y ago
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Nextgrid 3y ago
This guy is as much of a "cyber security threat" as your typical socially-awkward gamer teenager, of which we have plenty of. Every internet-connected server out there constantly gets probed by bots/tools often operated by similar people and nothing is ever done about it. This guy's crime wasn't that he was hacking/phishing/stalking or the general obnoxious behavior that often comes with this kind of person - this is effectively decriminalized in the UK anyway, as long as the victim isn't a big, culturally-relevant company. Financially-motivated scammers and crime rings take advantage of this. This guy's crime is that he embarrassed the establishment, so he has to be painted a much scarier monster than he really is and made an example of, since the truth that most technically-inclined, socially-awkward teenagers would be equally capable of such hacking would be hard to accept and put into question the competence of the affected companies.
- CaptainOfCoit 3y ago
  > This guy is as much of a "cyber security threat" as your typical socially-awkward gamer teenager, of which we have plenty of The following quote seems to indicate that the skills of this individual is much sharper than "typical socially-awkward gamer teenager": > Kurtaj managed to breach Rockstar, the company behind GTA, using an Amazon Firestick, his hotel TV and a mobile phone
  - Nextgrid 3y ago
    It doesn't take any skill to install a chrooted Linux environment or RDP/SSH client on a Fire Stick or Android phone, and said skill is orthogonal to hacking skills that could be deemed dangerous to society at large. The fact that this is explicitly brought up smells like they're trying to make this guy sound much more dangerous & evil than he really is. After all, had he discovered/used zero-days or developed exploits, that would be a real talking point, but if the only thing they've got is "he managed to get a shell on an android device" this smells of clutching at straws.
  - sensanaty 3y ago
    All that means is that he used his phone and another android device (the fire stick) + the TV as a monitor, to access whatever remote machine he has via SSH, not exactly rocket science And that's the point, the propaganda machine is working overtime to paint the kid as some horrifically dangerous criminal because he exposed the clowns in power that easily could've pdevented all this.
- macNchz 3y ago
  I don't see how the grand-scale theft and extortion run by Lapsus$ is remotely comparable to the behavior of a "typical socially awkward gamer teenager", even a particularly unethical one.
thomastjeffery 3y ago
It's not just unlikely. It's unexpected. To me, that presents an issue with the system, not its participants.

lemmetaste 3y ago

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Nextgrid 3y ago

This guy is as much of a "cyber security threat" as your typical socially-awkward gamer teenager, of which we have plenty of. Every internet-connected server out there constantly gets probed by bots/tools often operated by similar people and nothing is ever done about it. This guy's crime wasn't that he was hacking/phishing/stalking or the general obnoxious behavior that often comes with this kind of person - this is effectively decriminalized in the UK anyway, as long as the victim isn't a big, culturally-relevant company. Financially-motivated scammers and crime rings take advantage of this. This guy's crime is that he embarrassed the establishment, so he has to be painted a much scarier monster than he really is and made an example of, since the truth that most technically-inclined, socially-awkward teenagers would be equally capable of such hacking would be hard to accept and put into question the competence of the affected companies.

CaptainOfCoit 3y ago
> This guy is as much of a "cyber security threat" as your typical socially-awkward gamer teenager, of which we have plenty of The following quote seems to indicate that the skills of this individual is much sharper than "typical socially-awkward gamer teenager": > Kurtaj managed to breach Rockstar, the company behind GTA, using an Amazon Firestick, his hotel TV and a mobile phone
- Nextgrid 3y ago
  It doesn't take any skill to install a chrooted Linux environment or RDP/SSH client on a Fire Stick or Android phone, and said skill is orthogonal to hacking skills that could be deemed dangerous to society at large. The fact that this is explicitly brought up smells like they're trying to make this guy sound much more dangerous & evil than he really is. After all, had he discovered/used zero-days or developed exploits, that would be a real talking point, but if the only thing they've got is "he managed to get a shell on an android device" this smells of clutching at straws.
- sensanaty 3y ago
  All that means is that he used his phone and another android device (the fire stick) + the TV as a monitor, to access whatever remote machine he has via SSH, not exactly rocket science And that's the point, the propaganda machine is working overtime to paint the kid as some horrifically dangerous criminal because he exposed the clowns in power that easily could've pdevented all this.
macNchz 3y ago
I don't see how the grand-scale theft and extortion run by Lapsus$ is remotely comparable to the behavior of a "typical socially awkward gamer teenager", even a particularly unethical one.

thomastjeffery 3y ago

It's not just unlikely. It's unexpected. To me, that presents an issue with the system, not its participants.