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I agree that it's an extreme step, but given that the creator of the work was trying to use it to extort both the Tolkien estate and Amazon, confiscating the wo
by duskwuff 3y ago
I agree that it's an extreme step, but given that the creator of the work was trying to use it to extort both the Tolkien estate and Amazon, confiscating the work to prevent further abuse is understandable.
Also, the book was submitted as an exhibit in the court case, so you can read it there. It's genuinely awful. Nothing of value is being lost here.
https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.cacd.881511/gov.uscourts.cacd.881511.37.6.pdf https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.cacd.88...
- tuscen 3y agoIt really should not matter. It shouldn't even be allowed to ban non-commercial fan fiction.
- duskwuff 3y agoThis wasn't non-commercial. The author was selling his book, and was trying to extort Amazon into paying licensing fees for it as well.
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- acchow 3y agoKind of like patent trolls patenting an invention someone else is already actually using
- jabroni_salad 3y agohttps://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:pG0fNw74CaAJ:https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/book/1142895065&hl=en&gl=us https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:pG0fNw...
- sickofparadox 3y agoEven if it was horribly offensive and morally repugnant, I would still say that the court should let private copies exist.
- ceejayoz 3y agoThe court is hosting one in the link above.
- whatshisface 3y agoWhy are they bothering to ask anyone to destroy it?
- ceejayoz 3y agoBecause he egregiously misbehaved with his, and this is the resulting punishment. You and I can keep whatever copies we may have.
- ClumsyPilot 3y ago> Because he egregiously misbehaved with his, and this is the resulting punishment This is like some new form of justice, where, if you hit someone with a hammer we punish the hammer?
- ceejayoz 3y agoNo; we take away your hammers. It's quite an old approach.
- ClumsyPilot 3y agoTaking away the hammer would placing the fanwork into public domain. Here, we are specifically destroying the hammer as a punishment.
- runeofdoom 3y agoIt is, for all practical purposes. The court posted the whole thing in an official document.
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- sugarkjube 3y agoThis is hilarious. So the judge forbids him to further distribute the book he wrote, but now publishes and distributes it on his behalf. For free. Go figure. Can the court now be considered guilty of violating copyright ?
- ceejayoz 3y ago> Can the court now be considered guilty of violating copyright ? No. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sovereign_immunity https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sovereign_immunity
- autoexec 3y agoI have a copy now, and I'd never even heard of this fanfic before today. Not sure that the system is working as intended...
- squidbeak 3y agoIt's literary merits are irrelevant. This is someone's work, and they are being denied the right to even keep a backup up in the attic. If one party's control over a creative work can be extended to strip another party of any control over his, something's fucked up with the system.