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> I would have said their operating cost is much lower. Paying the wages of the drivers for a year costs more than the car - even a car plus all those fancy LI

• xnx 3y ago
  Also worth noting that Uber rides are somewhat subsidized by drivers' limited understanding of fuel, insurance, and maintenance costs.
• rstuart4133 3y ago
  > No, Cruise shared a few months ago that operating costs per mile is still higher than a car with a paid driver. The page you link to says a) it (the entire operation?) is bleeding money, and b) it's operating costs are reducing, and c) quote efficiency improvements helping reduce the costs of simulation and machine learning used to test and improve AV performance. I can't see where it explicitly says it's operating costs alone that exceed they call the magic threshold of $1/mile (which is presume is what a car + driver costs). And given they mention (c) above it seems unlikely they meant it was just operating costs. That aside, they go onto say quote Operating costs per mile for Cruise autonomous vehicles or AVs has fallen by an average 15 percent monthly over the first half of 2023. That's an extraordinary rate for costs to fall. If indeed operating costs exceed that of a human driver it wouldn't have remained that way for long, had they continued.