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Just require police to carry liability insurance so their misconduct is paid for by the insurance. If all insurance carriers drop them they cannot do police wor

Just require police to carry liability insurance so their misconduct is paid for by the insurance. If all insurance carriers drop them they cannot do police work anymore. You can even give them a raise to cover the extra insurance. Then the government would have to keep paying out for misconduct and the worst offenders would at least get booted out of the profession. A national law would work best but even state laws would be effective.

guitarbill 3y ago
Why would you make the government pay out? Make the police unions provide that insurance.
- bonton89 3y ago
  One of my classic typos. I mean the government would NOT have to payout, the insurance company would.
  - creer 3y ago
    Who do you suggest would pay the insurance premiums? Besides monetary compensation is not the solution in lawlessness and bullying.
    - voltaireodactyl 3y ago
      It sounds like they’re suggesting it work similarly to malpractice insurance for doctors.
gosub100 3y ago
yeah, a profit-based system. I like it. Then the police should check your ID and insurance when they respond to your call and if you don't pay into the system, you don't get protection. Efficient markets and all :)
avs733 3y ago
>Just require police to carry liability insurance so their misconduct is paid for by the insurance I consistently and strongly disagree with this. The police are a manifestation of our society. When they do bad things they do so in our name - whether or not you want them to do it. We have created a law enforcement structure that empowers these abuses to happen. Transferring the cost to them for acting the way society wants them to act is not the answer. We bear that responsibility and should bear that cost.
- ilovetux 3y ago
  > When they do bad things they do so in our name - whether or not you want them to do it...Transferring the cost to them for acting the way society wants them to act is not the answer. This _maybe_ works in some abstract way, but each police officer is autonomous and has the leeway to act any way they want. I have autonomy as well, so I could commit a crime. Let's say that I grew up poor, and the only opportunity in my neighborhood to make any substantial amount of money was to sell drugs. If I choose to sell drugs and get caught I go to jail. Now at this point, we can say that we have created a societal structure that limits my opportunities (no economic development in certain areas) and empowered these drug sales (by making the drugs illegal thus increasing their value) to happen, but that does not somehow shift the blame from me to society. I would do my prison sentence and try to move on with my life. This apologetic stance for the abuses of the police is harmful. Police officers are people and should have at least as many responsibilities and liabilities in the view of the law as any ordinary citizen. In fact, as they are charged with upholding our laws, they should be held to a higher standard than an ordinary citizen. If a police officer commits a crime, then they have committed that crime _and_ they have abused the trust placed in them by the state, county, etc that they work for.

guitarbill 3y ago

Why would you make the government pay out? Make the police unions provide that insurance.

bonton89 3y ago
One of my classic typos. I mean the government would NOT have to payout, the insurance company would.
- creer 3y ago
  Who do you suggest would pay the insurance premiums? Besides monetary compensation is not the solution in lawlessness and bullying.
  - voltaireodactyl 3y ago
    It sounds like they’re suggesting it work similarly to malpractice insurance for doctors.

gosub100 3y ago

yeah, a profit-based system. I like it. Then the police should check your ID and insurance when they respond to your call and if you don't pay into the system, you don't get protection. Efficient markets and all :)

avs733 3y ago

>Just require police to carry liability insurance so their misconduct is paid for by the insurance I consistently and strongly disagree with this. The police are a manifestation of our society. When they do bad things they do so in our name - whether or not you want them to do it. We have created a law enforcement structure that empowers these abuses to happen. Transferring the cost to them for acting the way society wants them to act is not the answer. We bear that responsibility and should bear that cost.

ilovetux 3y ago
> When they do bad things they do so in our name - whether or not you want them to do it...Transferring the cost to them for acting the way society wants them to act is not the answer. This _maybe_ works in some abstract way, but each police officer is autonomous and has the leeway to act any way they want. I have autonomy as well, so I could commit a crime. Let's say that I grew up poor, and the only opportunity in my neighborhood to make any substantial amount of money was to sell drugs. If I choose to sell drugs and get caught I go to jail. Now at this point, we can say that we have created a societal structure that limits my opportunities (no economic development in certain areas) and empowered these drug sales (by making the drugs illegal thus increasing their value) to happen, but that does not somehow shift the blame from me to society. I would do my prison sentence and try to move on with my life. This apologetic stance for the abuses of the police is harmful. Police officers are people and should have at least as many responsibilities and liabilities in the view of the law as any ordinary citizen. In fact, as they are charged with upholding our laws, they should be held to a higher standard than an ordinary citizen. If a police officer commits a crime, then they have committed that crime _and_ they have abused the trust placed in them by the state, county, etc that they work for.