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I can't believe we're having this discussion either. Force cops to follow rules, full stop. We know that police misconduct begets more misconduct [1], and it wo

by tl 3y ago

I can't believe we're having this discussion either. Force cops to follow rules, full stop. We know that police misconduct begets more misconduct [1], and it works in both directions. When officers start losing their badge or their pension for cutting corners, they'll stop cutting corners. [1]: https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/full/10.1177/2378023119879798 https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/full/10.1177/23780231198797...

bloomingeek 3y ago
Absolutely, cops have to be held to a higher standard. This so called "peace officer" was stopped from trying to draw the blood from the unconscious person! Then he has the gall to arrest the nurse who told him he had no right! Then, instead of taking responsibility for his actions, he blames the system! https://www.sltrib.com/news/2019/10/12/ex-salt-lake-city-officer/ https://www.sltrib.com/news/2019/10/12/ex-salt-lake-city-off... https://www.sltrib.com/news/politics/2019/08/28/police-officer-who/ https://www.sltrib.com/news/politics/2019/08/28/police-offic... https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/11/01/561337106/utah-nurse-arrested-for-doing-her-job-reaches-500-000-settlement https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/11/01/561337106...
- monkaiju 3y ago
  https://app.copdb.org/incidents/2ea95420-2070-4c9d-8e72-f1c68fe11359 https://app.copdb.org/incidents/2ea95420-2070-4c9d-8e72-f1c6...
- FireBeyond 3y ago
  Cops in that case were desperate to move liability for an MVA from their buddy who was off-duty and drunk to the other party in the collision, hoping to find that he had anything in his system that they could point to as a contributing, if not causing, factor (because let's face it, if they were willing to do that, I'm sure they'd also be entirely willing to let their buddy sleep it off a few hours before doing his draw so his numbers weren't problematic - I mean, the guy he killed isn't going to be able to testify against him).
  - brewdad 3y ago
    So how many of these cops faced a punishment beyond an unplanned paid vacation?
    - FireBeyond 3y ago
      Fairly predictable. Detective Jeff Payne was fired by SLC PD, remained unapologetic. Went to the next county north and hired at the County Jail. He then sued SLC and the PD for wrongful termination, arguing that his bodycam footage was misleading and that he was following direction of a supervisor.

by tl 3y ago

bloomingeek 3y ago

Absolutely, cops have to be held to a higher standard. This so called "peace officer" was stopped from trying to draw the blood from the unconscious person! Then he has the gall to arrest the nurse who told him he had no right! Then, instead of taking responsibility for his actions, he blames the system! https://www.sltrib.com/news/2019/10/12/ex-salt-lake-city-officer/ https://www.sltrib.com/news/2019/10/12/ex-salt-lake-city-off... https://www.sltrib.com/news/politics/2019/08/28/police-officer-who/ https://www.sltrib.com/news/politics/2019/08/28/police-offic... https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/11/01/561337106/utah-nurse-arrested-for-doing-her-job-reaches-500-000-settlement https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/11/01/561337106...

monkaiju 3y ago
https://app.copdb.org/incidents/2ea95420-2070-4c9d-8e72-f1c68fe11359 https://app.copdb.org/incidents/2ea95420-2070-4c9d-8e72-f1c6...
FireBeyond 3y ago
Cops in that case were desperate to move liability for an MVA from their buddy who was off-duty and drunk to the other party in the collision, hoping to find that he had anything in his system that they could point to as a contributing, if not causing, factor (because let's face it, if they were willing to do that, I'm sure they'd also be entirely willing to let their buddy sleep it off a few hours before doing his draw so his numbers weren't problematic - I mean, the guy he killed isn't going to be able to testify against him).
- brewdad 3y ago
  So how many of these cops faced a punishment beyond an unplanned paid vacation?
  - FireBeyond 3y ago
    Fairly predictable. Detective Jeff Payne was fired by SLC PD, remained unapologetic. Went to the next county north and hired at the County Jail. He then sued SLC and the PD for wrongful termination, arguing that his bodycam footage was misleading and that he was following direction of a supervisor.