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- egberts1 3y agoCurious if there was any due process like counter-evidence, witnesses, and transcript cited by the court: I didn’t think so.
- nyxtom 3y agoSupreme Court very likely to overrule
- bediger4000 3y agoI'm honestly curious why you think this. The CO Supreme Court made an originalist interpretation and ruling, based on some of Associate Justice Gorsuch's rulings from when he was a 10th circuit judge in Colorado. Do you think SCOTUS thinks this is a genuinely wrong ruling, or that SCOTUS will find a way to reverse it because of their partisan leanings, or ...?
- CamperBob2 3y agoCurious if there was any due process like counter-evidence, witnesses, and transcript cited by the court: I didn’t think so. About as much as there was when he ran a full-page ad in the NYT dog-whistling for the death penalty for the Central Park Five, I'd say.
- bediger4000 3y agoAbsolutely there was. As a Colorado resident, this trial has been in the news for weeks or months. Trump got every bit of due process - motions, briefings, rulings, and a trial. It looked like it was done very carefully, at least by the courts (district court ruled first), the Republican and independent plaintiffs, and 3rd parties like the CO Republican party. The reason the CO supreme Court ruled was because of appeals by both Trump and the plaintiffs. Hard to imagine more due process was possible.
- egberts1 3y agoChief Justice Brian D. Boatright, in his dissent, wrote that the "absence of an insurrection-related conviction" against Trump should have called for the case to be dismissed. Stuff of kangaroo court.
- bediger4000 3y agoYou're grasping at straws. This was a civil case. I don't know why you're demanding a conviction. CO Secretary of State Jena Griswold was the respondent, I believe. Beyond that, are you objecting because the vote wasn't unanimous? Lots of very controversial SCOTUS votes have been 5-4. We all live with them. Wait, are you a CO voter? If not, then you don't have to live with this decision. As it happens, I am a CO voter, so I am glad there was due process and it was decided correctly.
- egberts1 3y agoOften times dissenting juror's opinion makes for an excellent point.
- Kon-Peki 3y agoYes, there was a full and complete trial, in which the court bent over backwards to give the Trump side every opportunity they wanted. His side won. You really don't remember this? It's all online, you can find it if you bother to search. The Colorado Supreme Court reversed and said this huge amount of info the lower court collected supports the opposite conclusion. And all of this is online, you can find it if you bother to search. The Colorado Supreme Court also stayed their ruling: it won't take effect until the very last day that the Secretary of State has to certify who is on the ballot. And this is online, you can find it if you bother to search. The Trump side is being given special treatment that you would never get if you ever got sued.
- Jsebast24 3y ago"We're gonna give you a fair trial, followed by a first class hanging."
- Kon-Peki 3y agoSometimes people really are guilty.
- CamperBob2 3y agoIf Trump and his running dogs didn't summon the rioters, who did? And what if evidence existed that Antifa or BLM agitators were responsible, as Republicans tried desperately to propagate as soon as it became clear the coup was a failure? [1] Would that change your opinion that the people responsible for January 6 are experiencing premature judgment and unfair punishment? 1: https://www.nytimes.com/2021/03/01/us/politics/antifa-conspiracy-capitol-riot.html https://www.nytimes.com/2021/03/01/us/politics/antifa-conspi...
- egberts1 3y agoPosting NYT article isn't credible ... anymore.
- CamperBob2 3y ago