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It seems hard to argue with the cops. “You’re 21 and sleep in someone’s house for free? You get drunk in his house and blame the host?” A lack of common sense

It seems hard to argue with the cops. “You’re 21 and sleep in someone’s house for free? You get drunk in his house and blame the host?” A lack of common sense is often fatal.

gwill 3y ago
i disagree. it's tough for me to explain but there seemed to be a really kind culture around couchsurfing that was about sharing space and experiences with people from all over the world. the role of a host is at minimum to provide a safe place for someone to crash. i really felt safe at the ~10 places i stayed. I'm male, so definite bias, but i met other surfers that were female and had similar experiences to mine and female hosts that never had issues. profiles could have shaped the version of couch surfing i was seeing however.
- tiahura 3y ago
  Street racing is fun and you can make some great friends. It’s still stupid.
bromuro 3y ago
Wait, isn’t this something common and actually cool to do? I always Couchsurfed and it has been amazing.
- alternative_a 3y ago
  Person A using the couch for its intended function (a place to sleep over) vs B who is using it also for social function with possible slight degradation in faculties (drunk), lowering of social barrier (socializing). What you say is true: it is cool and positive social experience on travels are fantastic. However, objectively, A has a lower risk profile. B is creating doors to possible negative outcomes. These doors may never open for B, but for A’s risk profile, some of these doors (paths to potential negative outcomes) do not even exist. Additionally, for the potential predator, A’s behavior raises risk for the predator and B’s lowers it. So B type behavior raises possibility of negative outcome at both levels: vulnerability is raised for victim, and control over the situation and outcome (i.e. assault) is increased for the predator.
woodrowbarlow 3y ago
the whole point of law enforcement is to create a society where we can trust our fellow human. victim-blaming is avoiding responsibility.
- paleotrope 3y ago
  A cynic might counter claim that law enforcement was created to protect criminals from lawful citizens.
Timshel 3y ago
I don't understand your point, yes they took risks does not change the fact that some of them got raped. No reason to "dismissed" their report ...
arp242 3y ago
They were drugged; they didn't "get drunk".

It seems hard to argue with the cops. “You’re 21 and sleep in someone’s house for free? You get drunk in his house and blame the host?” A lack of common sense is often fatal.

gwill 3y ago

i disagree. it's tough for me to explain but there seemed to be a really kind culture around couchsurfing that was about sharing space and experiences with people from all over the world. the role of a host is at minimum to provide a safe place for someone to crash. i really felt safe at the ~10 places i stayed. I'm male, so definite bias, but i met other surfers that were female and had similar experiences to mine and female hosts that never had issues. profiles could have shaped the version of couch surfing i was seeing however.

tiahura 3y ago
Street racing is fun and you can make some great friends. It’s still stupid.

bromuro 3y ago

Wait, isn’t this something common and actually cool to do? I always Couchsurfed and it has been amazing.

alternative_a 3y ago
Person A using the couch for its intended function (a place to sleep over) vs B who is using it also for social function with possible slight degradation in faculties (drunk), lowering of social barrier (socializing). What you say is true: it is cool and positive social experience on travels are fantastic. However, objectively, A has a lower risk profile. B is creating doors to possible negative outcomes. These doors may never open for B, but for A’s risk profile, some of these doors (paths to potential negative outcomes) do not even exist. Additionally, for the potential predator, A’s behavior raises risk for the predator and B’s lowers it. So B type behavior raises possibility of negative outcome at both levels: vulnerability is raised for victim, and control over the situation and outcome (i.e. assault) is increased for the predator.

woodrowbarlow 3y ago

the whole point of law enforcement is to create a society where we can trust our fellow human. victim-blaming is avoiding responsibility.

paleotrope 3y ago
A cynic might counter claim that law enforcement was created to protect criminals from lawful citizens.

Timshel 3y ago

I don't understand your point, yes they took risks does not change the fact that some of them got raped. No reason to "dismissed" their report ...

arp242 3y ago

They were drugged; they didn't "get drunk".