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This article is unscientific garbage. As a Canadian who got healthcare in the US, I can say the quality of the service I got was much higher, and I waited 2 mon

This article is unscientific garbage. As a Canadian who got healthcare in the US, I can say the quality of the service I got was much higher, and I waited 2 months for surgery instead of 2 years. You guys want a free lunch, expect free lunch quality.

LeafItAlone 3y ago
I am honestly curious: how that was paid for in your case. I’m an American who has needed urgent care in Canada and I was not billed. How did the reverse work, especially in your case where it was clearly planned?
- TriangleEdge 3y ago
  I worked on a TN visa for <big_tech>. I had a high deductible plan, so I paid up to X out of pocket. I forget the exact amount but I think something around $3000 USD. My surgery was sports related and non life threatening.
  - bee_rider 3y ago
    The US system does an OK job of serving well off people who need inexpensive non-life-threatening procedures, I guess? But I’m not sure this tells us much about what the policy should be.
  - apexalpha 3y ago
    People in Europe also have the option to go to private facilities if they're willing to pay thousands of Euros out of pocket.
c-cube 3y ago
That's called anecdote. If you're a skilled immigrant working in tech, you'll probably have excellent healthcare coverage through your employer. This isn't the case for dozen of millions of americans.
- TriangleEdge 3y ago
  So where are the data charts in the article showing this?
richbell 3y ago
> This article is unscientific garbage. How exactly is it unscientific garbage?
- TriangleEdge 3y ago
  Where are the data charts attempting to quantify quality of care? To me, this article reads, "French citizen pay more for a meal on average", but meanwhile the comparison is of a population eating fast food everyday. The article feels like an emotional argument saying "We pay 2x for the same service" but I'm highly doubtful of the "same service" aspect of it. Don't get me wrong, the data I've seen showing Americans are one of the most unhealthy populations in the developed world is clear. I'm saying the article is unscientific, not that the American people are healthy, or have great health care service.

LeafItAlone 3y ago

I am honestly curious: how that was paid for in your case. I’m an American who has needed urgent care in Canada and I was not billed. How did the reverse work, especially in your case where it was clearly planned?

TriangleEdge 3y ago
I worked on a TN visa for <big_tech>. I had a high deductible plan, so I paid up to X out of pocket. I forget the exact amount but I think something around $3000 USD. My surgery was sports related and non life threatening.
- bee_rider 3y ago
  The US system does an OK job of serving well off people who need inexpensive non-life-threatening procedures, I guess? But I’m not sure this tells us much about what the policy should be.
- apexalpha 3y ago
  People in Europe also have the option to go to private facilities if they're willing to pay thousands of Euros out of pocket.

c-cube 3y ago

That's called anecdote. If you're a skilled immigrant working in tech, you'll probably have excellent healthcare coverage through your employer. This isn't the case for dozen of millions of americans.

TriangleEdge 3y ago
So where are the data charts in the article showing this?

richbell 3y ago

> This article is unscientific garbage. How exactly is it unscientific garbage?

TriangleEdge 3y ago
Where are the data charts attempting to quantify quality of care? To me, this article reads, "French citizen pay more for a meal on average", but meanwhile the comparison is of a population eating fast food everyday. The article feels like an emotional argument saying "We pay 2x for the same service" but I'm highly doubtful of the "same service" aspect of it. Don't get me wrong, the data I've seen showing Americans are one of the most unhealthy populations in the developed world is clear. I'm saying the article is unscientific, not that the American people are healthy, or have great health care service.