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I absolutely love Germany, it’s my favourite destination. So I am a quite upset about what you are saying. It’s not all that different to the stories we all hea

I absolutely love Germany, it’s my favourite destination. So I am a quite upset about what you are saying. It’s not all that different to the stories we all heard about how the media and public turned a blind eye at the horrors orchestrated on the Jewish people, but now it’s happening 90 years later on the Palestinian people (the numbers of dead civilians speak volumes). When Russia went to war with Ukraine, I thought it was barbaric… unjust.. and evil. But after 20,000 dead in Gaza (mostly women and children according to media) and the place being flattened, it makes Russia look ten times less nasty. Gaza will be a car park soon.

myspy 3y ago
The post is exaggerated. Media is still reporting what is happening there. The problem is that journalism is not well equipped anymore to give deeper insights (for example sending people there to find out what is really going on without relying on either parties reporting). The conflict started and due to the scale of the Hamas attack and the German government supporting Israel due to its historic connection it is Israel focused. That's what I get from the media landscape.
gryzzly 3y ago
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- submeta 3y ago
  Withholding water, food, medicines for 2.3mil civilians for over 75 days, 1.1 mil children has nothing to do with fighting the enemy. It is only targeting civilians of whom thousands have died. And this is not collateral damage. It is intentional as Netanyahu comparing Palestinians to Amalek (google it) means destroying all of them: „killing the women, children, even the unborn.“. Gallant compared them to human animals and then said, he‘ll cut water(!), food, medicines. Herzog says „there are no innocents in Gaza“, saying: all of them are targets. IDF dropping leafelets: leave north or you are considered combatant. Israel has effectively made all hospitals inoperational, shoots old women in churches lately, promting the Pope for a comment, saying „this is terrorism“. So what are you trying to prove with your whataboutism? Yes, Assad was worse, but Israel is a western all and needs to act civilised, and apparently it is just taking revenge as there seems no clear strategy as to what it tries to achieve by even the withholding water and food! Let alone stopping ambulance, letting people die inside. Or snipers shooting inside hospitals. And what I said was that mainstream German newspapers and media will never report about these details. So please stop your hasbara. Please stop downplaying Palestinian victims.
  - gryzzly 3y ago
    Repeating lies such as "shots old women in churches" is 1000% antisemitic, now after a bit of exchange you show yourself clearly. How about that hospital? Do you think Israel and Israelis are doing this for fun? Like what your assumption is about "shooting women" or maybe "bombing hospitals" – say it already, what are you trying to say?
    - submeta 3y ago
      Do you read news? Why did the pope condemn the shooting of two Christian women in a church in Gaza? And can you please stop insulting me? Apparently what I am saying is the IDF does not care if civilians are killed. And I am saying they deliberately target civilians, not only in Gaza, but in West Bank as well. Ample evidence. Go read Haaretz or other serious journalism. https://amp.theguardian.com/world/2023/dec/18/women-mother-daughter-gaza-church-israel-cardinal-vincent-nichols https://amp.theguardian.com/world/2023/dec/18/women-mother-d...
    - pcthrowaway 3y ago
      And repeating lies such as "40 beheaded babies" isn't anti-muslim? I haven't heard about the "shot old women in churches" thing yet, but the IDF literally just shot to death 3 of the hostages Hamas captured, who were waving white flags, because they're so indiscriminate with their violence
      - submeta 3y ago
        See here for instance https://amp.theguardian.com/world/2023/dec/18/women-mother-daughter-gaza-church-israel-cardinal-vincent-nichols https://amp.theguardian.com/world/2023/dec/18/women-mother-d... Or google the Pope calling Israels „indiscriminate bombarding“ of Gaza „a terrorist act“ after IDF snipers shot two Christian women in a church. Snipers. No accident.
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  - gryzzly 3y ago
gryzzly 3y ago
Russia is actually a supporter of Hamas, providing weapons, training and intelligence, and is very much benefiting from the unstable middle east and the attention and budget being pulled from West to support Israel.

myspy 3y ago

The post is exaggerated. Media is still reporting what is happening there. The problem is that journalism is not well equipped anymore to give deeper insights (for example sending people there to find out what is really going on without relying on either parties reporting). The conflict started and due to the scale of the Hamas attack and the German government supporting Israel due to its historic connection it is Israel focused. That's what I get from the media landscape.

gryzzly 3y ago

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submeta 3y ago
Withholding water, food, medicines for 2.3mil civilians for over 75 days, 1.1 mil children has nothing to do with fighting the enemy. It is only targeting civilians of whom thousands have died. And this is not collateral damage. It is intentional as Netanyahu comparing Palestinians to Amalek (google it) means destroying all of them: „killing the women, children, even the unborn.“. Gallant compared them to human animals and then said, he‘ll cut water(!), food, medicines. Herzog says „there are no innocents in Gaza“, saying: all of them are targets. IDF dropping leafelets: leave north or you are considered combatant. Israel has effectively made all hospitals inoperational, shoots old women in churches lately, promting the Pope for a comment, saying „this is terrorism“. So what are you trying to prove with your whataboutism? Yes, Assad was worse, but Israel is a western all and needs to act civilised, and apparently it is just taking revenge as there seems no clear strategy as to what it tries to achieve by even the withholding water and food! Let alone stopping ambulance, letting people die inside. Or snipers shooting inside hospitals. And what I said was that mainstream German newspapers and media will never report about these details. So please stop your hasbara. Please stop downplaying Palestinian victims.
- gryzzly 3y ago
  Repeating lies such as "shots old women in churches" is 1000% antisemitic, now after a bit of exchange you show yourself clearly. How about that hospital? Do you think Israel and Israelis are doing this for fun? Like what your assumption is about "shooting women" or maybe "bombing hospitals" – say it already, what are you trying to say?
  - submeta 3y ago
    Do you read news? Why did the pope condemn the shooting of two Christian women in a church in Gaza? And can you please stop insulting me? Apparently what I am saying is the IDF does not care if civilians are killed. And I am saying they deliberately target civilians, not only in Gaza, but in West Bank as well. Ample evidence. Go read Haaretz or other serious journalism. https://amp.theguardian.com/world/2023/dec/18/women-mother-daughter-gaza-church-israel-cardinal-vincent-nichols https://amp.theguardian.com/world/2023/dec/18/women-mother-d...
  - pcthrowaway 3y ago
    And repeating lies such as "40 beheaded babies" isn't anti-muslim? I haven't heard about the "shot old women in churches" thing yet, but the IDF literally just shot to death 3 of the hostages Hamas captured, who were waving white flags, because they're so indiscriminate with their violence
    - submeta 3y ago
      See here for instance https://amp.theguardian.com/world/2023/dec/18/women-mother-daughter-gaza-church-israel-cardinal-vincent-nichols https://amp.theguardian.com/world/2023/dec/18/women-mother-d... Or google the Pope calling Israels „indiscriminate bombarding“ of Gaza „a terrorist act“ after IDF snipers shot two Christian women in a church. Snipers. No accident.
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- gryzzly 3y ago

gryzzly 3y ago

Russia is actually a supporter of Hamas, providing weapons, training and intelligence, and is very much benefiting from the unstable middle east and the attention and budget being pulled from West to support Israel.