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The Netherlands is different: I have 4 kids. All going to daycare 3 days a week. Total costs 3000 euros. I get back arround 700 from the government. Still 2300
by holoduke 3y ago
The Netherlands is different: I have 4 kids. All going to daycare 3 days a week. Total costs 3000 euros. I get back arround 700 from the government. Still 2300 euros. Thats 100 euros more than my rent. Kids are expensive.
- seszett 3y agoIsn't daycare cost indexed on income in the Netherlands? It is here in Flanders, and I think it's quite reasonable (also, government subsidy goes directly to the creche, so you only pay the remainder). About 100 euros per child/day/week, in our case. That's cheaper than for you, but I suppose our income is rather lower since 2200 euros/month rent seems awfully high to me, in the end it seems more or less the same relative to what we pay for housing. It's also rare to have 4 children going to daycare at the same time, since they go to school at 2,5 years old, so the costs don't last for long.
- holoduke 3y agoAfter school care is also a form of daycare in the netherlands. Called BSO. It rougly the same price. Less hours, but higher hourly rate.
- seszett 3y agoI see. Here nabewaking is much cheaper, a couple euros per day at most (maybe more in expensive private schools, I don't know). It makes sense to me because it's much easier to keep older children compared to babies.
- Balgair 3y agoIs that 3kE per week? or per year? Because 3kE per week is more in line with US costs
- brewdad 3y agoNo one in the US outside of the billionaire/ultra high millionaire class is paying $150,000 a year for child care.
- Balgair 3y agoYeah, I have friends in TN that are at ~1k/wk per kid. So 3 kids would cost that much. They only have one kid right now though.
- lotsofpulp 3y ago$1k per week is very high even for the SF Bay Area or Manhattan. I would need proof to believe it, and am interested in what kind of pampered existence these kids have at school considering TN’s average CoL, and even if such a daycare exists, it is surely not representative of 99% of daycares.
- Balgair 3y agoI mean, I'm not gonna give you the proof there as this is as anonymous an account as I can be. One thing would be to try to look at the wait lists of various daycares. My buddies in TN are at ~3 years. We were at ~1.5 years. And yes, it's quite common in the US for the waitlist for a daycare to be longer than 40 weeks of human gestation. Daycare in the US in general is really not very well tied to the local CoL. Many factors influence the cost and CoL is but one. Things like the quality of churches really affect things in ways that other services are not affected by normally. In general, if there is a waitlist, then capitalism has failed. You'd just raise prices until there is no more waitlist. But with daycare, you can't really do that without knocking out a large percentage of the workforce. Hence waitlists. NPR has a good PlanetMoney episode from a while back on the issues with daycare in the US. It's worth checking out.
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- holoduke 3y agoPer month
- Modified3019 3y agoHoly fuck that’s expensive
- Balgair 3y agoI have friends in TN that are about that amount per kid.
- runsWphotons 3y agoI suspect the equilibrium proce for childcare is like just under the average womans salary.
- michaelt 3y agoIf one childcare worker can look after 4 kids, why shouldn't the equilibrium price be a quarter of the average woman's salary?
- runsWphotons 3y agoWell, you have insurance, facilities, logistics. Local area matters a lot. For each family there should be some point, a little below the lower earners salary probably, where they'd rather just stay home themselves than pay for care. That will vary by income but I imagine the average price is a little below average woman earnings (usually but not always the lower earner still I think). That is basically what you can charge unless there is enough competition to bring the price down a lot. It doesnt sound like there is based on the prices people are claiming?
- sparrc 3y agoMaybe this is semantic but how do you have 4 kids all in daycare? Shouldn't some of them be in school? (unless you had 4 kids in under 5 years?) At least in the US and UK school starts at 5.