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I wouldn’t bother with any car that doesn’t have CarPlay or Android Auto. Most car companies are just bad at building user interfaces, and my phone is already a

I wouldn’t bother with any car that doesn’t have CarPlay or Android Auto. Most car companies are just bad at building user interfaces, and my phone is already an excellent infotainment system. Why duplicate the work?

moogly 3y ago
I agree but for two issues with Android Auto/CarPlay that I hope they can fix, but might prove difficult since AA/CarPlay is, AFAIU, just a video feed: - for EVs, route planning since AA/CarPlay doesn't know anything about the SoC, and battery pre-conditioning since the car doesn't know anything about the navigation - likewise, no HUD integration with the navigation This only really matters for longer road trips though.
- jamincan 3y ago
  One thing I've noticed with Android Auto in my Taos is that the turn-by-turn directions are displayed on the main driver's display (I don't have a HUD) when I am navigating in Google Maps, suggesting that there is some protocol for sharing the directions. It would be nice, though, to have the actual map be shared (the built-in nav has some cool integrations), and for commands to be transmitted back to Android Auto from the car - for example with steering wheel controls, or when low on charge/gas looking for a charging/gas station.
- turquoisevar 3y ago
  EV route planning on CarPlay already exists, with the option to automatically plan charging stops and charging point usage information (e.g., x available spots etc.). Don’t know if it feeds anything back to help with preconditioning though. Sadly only a handful of manufacturers make use of this. Seems to be only Porsche Taycan and Ford Mustang Mach-E thus far(0) As for HUD integration, the next gen CarPlay concept showed that as a possibility, but the two concepts announced yesterday by Porsche and Aston Martin didn’t show that implementation[1]. 0: https://9to5mac.com/2023/08/19/ios-17-adds-real-time-charging-availability-info-for-ev-drivers/ https://9to5mac.com/2023/08/19/ios-17-adds-real-time-chargin... 1: https://9to5mac.com/2023/12/20/first-cars-with-next-generation-carplay-officially-announced/ https://9to5mac.com/2023/12/20/first-cars-with-next-generati...

moogly 3y ago

I agree but for two issues with Android Auto/CarPlay that I hope they can fix, but might prove difficult since AA/CarPlay is, AFAIU, just a video feed: - for EVs, route planning since AA/CarPlay doesn't know anything about the SoC, and battery pre-conditioning since the car doesn't know anything about the navigation - likewise, no HUD integration with the navigation This only really matters for longer road trips though.

jamincan 3y ago
One thing I've noticed with Android Auto in my Taos is that the turn-by-turn directions are displayed on the main driver's display (I don't have a HUD) when I am navigating in Google Maps, suggesting that there is some protocol for sharing the directions. It would be nice, though, to have the actual map be shared (the built-in nav has some cool integrations), and for commands to be transmitted back to Android Auto from the car - for example with steering wheel controls, or when low on charge/gas looking for a charging/gas station.
turquoisevar 3y ago
EV route planning on CarPlay already exists, with the option to automatically plan charging stops and charging point usage information (e.g., x available spots etc.). Don’t know if it feeds anything back to help with preconditioning though. Sadly only a handful of manufacturers make use of this. Seems to be only Porsche Taycan and Ford Mustang Mach-E thus far(0) As for HUD integration, the next gen CarPlay concept showed that as a possibility, but the two concepts announced yesterday by Porsche and Aston Martin didn’t show that implementation[1]. 0: https://9to5mac.com/2023/08/19/ios-17-adds-real-time-charging-availability-info-for-ev-drivers/ https://9to5mac.com/2023/08/19/ios-17-adds-real-time-chargin... 1: https://9to5mac.com/2023/12/20/first-cars-with-next-generation-carplay-officially-announced/ https://9to5mac.com/2023/12/20/first-cars-with-next-generati...