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This is unfortunately the whole space around Tailwind and UI kits. Incomplete kits which look the same and are all priced highly. Just look at Catalyst, Shadcn

This is unfortunately the whole space around Tailwind and UI kits. Incomplete kits which look the same and are all priced highly. Just look at Catalyst, Shadcn and Radix UI. I don't know what's new in all of this. These are used by "agencies".

switz 3y ago
I’m using parts of Shadcn on a real product making real money. It’s really just a combination of cva, radix, and tailwind that you can copy into your app and customize/extend. Shadcn, radix, and tailwind are all FOSS so they are not “high-priced”. Your analysis is shallow and unfounded.
- ilrwbwrkhv 3y ago
  I meant they all look very similar. Yes these are indeed free.
- tipiirai 3y ago
  Shadcn seems more polished and complete than Catalyst, and it's free. Absolutely no reason to pay for Catalyst. btw: is the active state missing from Tailwind since Shadcd buttons are also missing them?
  - tczMUFlmoNk 3y ago
    > btw: is the active state missing from Tailwind since Shadcd buttons are also missing them? Nope. Tailwind has good support for styling the active state, in the way that you'd expect if you've used Tailwind: e.g., `bg-red-500 hover:bg-red-600 active:bg-red-700`. https://tailwindcss.com/docs/hover-focus-and-other-states https://tailwindcss.com/docs/hover-focus-and-other-states
- canadiantim 3y ago
  It's a shame these are all focused on react. I'd appreciate a vanilla js option
  - jokethrowaway 3y ago
    There are unofficial ports, eg. shadcn for solid: https://www.solid-ui.com/ https://www.solid-ui.com/
sergiomattei 3y ago
My understanding with Radix UI was that it’s a headless UI library. Looking at it again, it seems that has changed. Is this recent?
- sime 3y ago
  You’re thinking of Radix Primitives which is the headless component kit the new Radix Ui is built on https://www.radix-ui.com/primitives https://www.radix-ui.com/primitives
blowski 3y ago
> These are used by "agencies" Oh my word, the horror! What's wrong with agencies?
- sibit 3y ago
  I don't think they were implying something is inherently wrong with agencies. My interpretation of their comment is that 'agencies' who sell assembling plug-and-play UI kits are not the same as 'agencies' who design and build bespoke products from scratch.

switz 3y ago

I’m using parts of Shadcn on a real product making real money. It’s really just a combination of cva, radix, and tailwind that you can copy into your app and customize/extend. Shadcn, radix, and tailwind are all FOSS so they are not “high-priced”. Your analysis is shallow and unfounded.

ilrwbwrkhv 3y ago
I meant they all look very similar. Yes these are indeed free.
tipiirai 3y ago
Shadcn seems more polished and complete than Catalyst, and it's free. Absolutely no reason to pay for Catalyst. btw: is the active state missing from Tailwind since Shadcd buttons are also missing them?
- tczMUFlmoNk 3y ago
  > btw: is the active state missing from Tailwind since Shadcd buttons are also missing them? Nope. Tailwind has good support for styling the active state, in the way that you'd expect if you've used Tailwind: e.g., `bg-red-500 hover:bg-red-600 active:bg-red-700`. https://tailwindcss.com/docs/hover-focus-and-other-states https://tailwindcss.com/docs/hover-focus-and-other-states
canadiantim 3y ago
It's a shame these are all focused on react. I'd appreciate a vanilla js option
- jokethrowaway 3y ago
  There are unofficial ports, eg. shadcn for solid: https://www.solid-ui.com/ https://www.solid-ui.com/

sergiomattei 3y ago

My understanding with Radix UI was that it’s a headless UI library. Looking at it again, it seems that has changed. Is this recent?

sime 3y ago
You’re thinking of Radix Primitives which is the headless component kit the new Radix Ui is built on https://www.radix-ui.com/primitives https://www.radix-ui.com/primitives

blowski 3y ago

> These are used by "agencies" Oh my word, the horror! What's wrong with agencies?

sibit 3y ago
I don't think they were implying something is inherently wrong with agencies. My interpretation of their comment is that 'agencies' who sell assembling plug-and-play UI kits are not the same as 'agencies' who design and build bespoke products from scratch.