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> Nothing could be done about the muted sound. It’s like hearing a drum roll — the ball charging down the lane — with no crashing cymbal at the end. That cresce

> Nothing could be done about the muted sound. It’s like hearing a drum roll — the ball charging down the lane — with no crashing cymbal at the end. That crescendo and climax, Mills insists, is a visceral part “of the experience of smashing pins with a heavy ball.” This reminds me so much of the nostalgia and conflict over Formula 1 engine sounds: https://www.si.com/fannation/racing/f1briefings/news/f1-ceo-confirms-drastic-change-coming-for-2026-what-our-fans-want-lm22 https://www.si.com/fannation/racing/f1briefings/news/f1-ceo-...

pionar 3y ago
Bring back V12s!
- I_Am_Nous 3y ago
  There's nothing like ripping around Spa (in VR, of course) in the F2004 on Assetto Corsa. Sure, the SF70H/71H turbo-hybrid is faster but it definitely doesn't have the same experience. Those V12s sound ANGY
  - t0mas88 3y ago
    Around 2011 or 2012 the official F1 PlayStation game had a mode where you could drive the classic F1 cars. The game wasn't very good (and nothing like serious sim racing), but that classic car mode with the accompanying sound was great.
schneems 3y ago
I wonder if we could put a mic by the pins and play it back amplified. It’s still not the “same” which I’m guessing is the bigger problem, but it at least would be more sensory feedback in the short term.
- rgmerk 3y ago
  You may well be aware that car manufacturers are doing something like this right now [1] in combustion engined cars. Hyundai is taking it a step further in their Ioniq 5 N EV, which has three different artificial sounds, one of which sounds like a sporty combustion engine exhaust, but the other two sound completely different [2]. [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SQ0Ixizzzfg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SQ0Ixizzzfg [2] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DSIguemKIbQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DSIguemKIbQ
  - Nition 3y ago
    That's not even just sounds, the Ioniq doesn't even have gears, and those paddles usually control regen level instead. The entire experience of having an engine with gears in that video is simulated!
    - rgmerk 3y ago
      Yep, the sim racing experience in a real car...

pionar 3y ago

Bring back V12s!

I_Am_Nous 3y ago
There's nothing like ripping around Spa (in VR, of course) in the F2004 on Assetto Corsa. Sure, the SF70H/71H turbo-hybrid is faster but it definitely doesn't have the same experience. Those V12s sound ANGY
- t0mas88 3y ago
  Around 2011 or 2012 the official F1 PlayStation game had a mode where you could drive the classic F1 cars. The game wasn't very good (and nothing like serious sim racing), but that classic car mode with the accompanying sound was great.

schneems 3y ago

I wonder if we could put a mic by the pins and play it back amplified. It’s still not the “same” which I’m guessing is the bigger problem, but it at least would be more sensory feedback in the short term.

rgmerk 3y ago
You may well be aware that car manufacturers are doing something like this right now [1] in combustion engined cars. Hyundai is taking it a step further in their Ioniq 5 N EV, which has three different artificial sounds, one of which sounds like a sporty combustion engine exhaust, but the other two sound completely different [2]. [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SQ0Ixizzzfg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SQ0Ixizzzfg [2] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DSIguemKIbQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DSIguemKIbQ
- Nition 3y ago
  That's not even just sounds, the Ioniq doesn't even have gears, and those paddles usually control regen level instead. The entire experience of having an engine with gears in that video is simulated!
  - rgmerk 3y ago
    Yep, the sim racing experience in a real car...