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> It's a shame North America still has years of plug incompatibilities and adapter fiddling Not really, Tesla has over 24k charging stalls in the US. The secon

by SEJeff 3y ago

> It's a shame North America still has years of plug incompatibilities and adapter fiddling Not really, Tesla has over 24k charging stalls in the US. The second biggest is Electrify America, and they have only 3,800 charging stalls. There really aren't a lot of EV chargers that are non-tesla in the US, unlike the EU.

clouddrover 3y ago
There are 7,869 locations and 15,661 CCS ports in the US and Canada (versus 2,297 locations and 25,247 Tesla ports): https://afdc.energy.gov/fuels/electricity_locations.html https://afdc.energy.gov/fuels/electricity_locations.html It's plugs on chargers and inlets on cars. It'll be a slow and tedious process.
- _ea1k 3y ago
  TBH, the afdc data badly overstates the number of available locations. Not only do they include a lot of broken or otherwise inaccessible locations, but they include things like this: https://www.plugshare.com/location/1564 https://www.plugshare.com/location/1564 I think that currently holds the record for the slowest DCFC in the country. :)
  - SEJeff 3y ago
    > max 13A, 4kW Wow! You'd get a better charge from a standard 15A 110V AC plug.
    - jaguar1878 3y ago
      No, you want to compare Watts, not Volts, as Watts measures power and Volts is just potential. A 15A 110V outlet can supply 1500W continuous (1.5kW). A 4kW DC charger is almost three times higher power than this.
- SEJeff 3y ago
  I didn’t include the crappy L2 destination chargers, of which there are a whole lot more of that support teslas. I was referring to the L3 superchargers / fast chargers or equivalent. The majority of the ones you linked are L2 chargers are are not that useful outside of destination charging.
  - clouddrover 3y ago
    That is DC fast chargers. If you include J1772 AC chargers in the count the numbers are 66,093 locations and 146,206 ports.
freeAgent 3y ago
It sounds like you’re talking about DCFC. AC chargers are much more common and they are predominantly using the J1772 connector today.

by SEJeff 3y ago

clouddrover 3y ago

There are 7,869 locations and 15,661 CCS ports in the US and Canada (versus 2,297 locations and 25,247 Tesla ports): https://afdc.energy.gov/fuels/electricity_locations.html https://afdc.energy.gov/fuels/electricity_locations.html It's plugs on chargers and inlets on cars. It'll be a slow and tedious process.

_ea1k 3y ago
TBH, the afdc data badly overstates the number of available locations. Not only do they include a lot of broken or otherwise inaccessible locations, but they include things like this: https://www.plugshare.com/location/1564 https://www.plugshare.com/location/1564 I think that currently holds the record for the slowest DCFC in the country. :)
- SEJeff 3y ago
  > max 13A, 4kW Wow! You'd get a better charge from a standard 15A 110V AC plug.
  - jaguar1878 3y ago
    No, you want to compare Watts, not Volts, as Watts measures power and Volts is just potential. A 15A 110V outlet can supply 1500W continuous (1.5kW). A 4kW DC charger is almost three times higher power than this.
SEJeff 3y ago
I didn’t include the crappy L2 destination chargers, of which there are a whole lot more of that support teslas. I was referring to the L3 superchargers / fast chargers or equivalent. The majority of the ones you linked are L2 chargers are are not that useful outside of destination charging.
- clouddrover 3y ago
  That is DC fast chargers. If you include J1772 AC chargers in the count the numbers are 66,093 locations and 146,206 ports.

freeAgent 3y ago

It sounds like you’re talking about DCFC. AC chargers are much more common and they are predominantly using the J1772 connector today.