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US is standardizing quite nicely too, on Tesla's charging standard. I can't think of a company that is not planning to use Tesla's charger going forward.

jader201 3y ago
Not really. Many Tesla Superchargers are being equipped with Magic Dock, which is perpetuating CCS. More manufacturers may be moving to NACS, but it’s not like chargers are moving away from CCS. If anything, the CCS infrastructure is growing.
- InTheArena 3y ago
  CCS is dead with this. I expect magic dock installs to stop.
  - _ea1k 3y ago
    I think they are still a requirement for NEVI, and Tesla has won a few contracts for NEVI sites. I do expect them to stop eventually though. IMO, part of the reason they exist is that it lets them collect real world data on supercharger and adapter usage before the bigger rollouts next year.
- eichin 3y ago
  How widespread is that really? After the first deployment (where every EV youtuber east of the Mississippi converged on one tesla lot in New York :-) I haven't seen it in tech news since, and looking in the app I see 2 private ("destination") chargers in all of MA, and none in CT...
- giobox 3y ago
  > Many Tesla Superchargers are being equipped with Magic Dock, which is perpetuating CCS This isn't actually the case; while the tech press made a big deal about the project when announced, hardly any Super Charger sites have the Magic Dock. As of this month, it's only at ~50 Super Charger locations. I also think with widespread NACS adoption the rollout will slow down even more - what is the point of the project if almost all new EVs sold in the US will have NACS? There are over 2000 Tesla Super Charger locations in the US. I have never seen a Magic Dock in the wild personally, for what little additional it's worth. > https://www.teslarati.com/tesla-magic-dock-supercharger-intallations/ https://www.teslarati.com/tesla-magic-dock-supercharger-inta... > https://supercharge.info/data https://supercharge.info/data
  - NewJazz 3y ago
    Yeah this is being abandoned. But GM at least claims they'll offer a NACS->CCS1 adapter in 2024. So it just on the consumer to bring their own adapter. There is no need to have one at the stall for subsidy eligibility.

jader201 3y ago

Not really. Many Tesla Superchargers are being equipped with Magic Dock, which is perpetuating CCS. More manufacturers may be moving to NACS, but it’s not like chargers are moving away from CCS. If anything, the CCS infrastructure is growing.

InTheArena 3y ago
CCS is dead with this. I expect magic dock installs to stop.
- _ea1k 3y ago
  I think they are still a requirement for NEVI, and Tesla has won a few contracts for NEVI sites. I do expect them to stop eventually though. IMO, part of the reason they exist is that it lets them collect real world data on supercharger and adapter usage before the bigger rollouts next year.
eichin 3y ago
How widespread is that really? After the first deployment (where every EV youtuber east of the Mississippi converged on one tesla lot in New York :-) I haven't seen it in tech news since, and looking in the app I see 2 private ("destination") chargers in all of MA, and none in CT...
giobox 3y ago
> Many Tesla Superchargers are being equipped with Magic Dock, which is perpetuating CCS This isn't actually the case; while the tech press made a big deal about the project when announced, hardly any Super Charger sites have the Magic Dock. As of this month, it's only at ~50 Super Charger locations. I also think with widespread NACS adoption the rollout will slow down even more - what is the point of the project if almost all new EVs sold in the US will have NACS? There are over 2000 Tesla Super Charger locations in the US. I have never seen a Magic Dock in the wild personally, for what little additional it's worth. > https://www.teslarati.com/tesla-magic-dock-supercharger-intallations/ https://www.teslarati.com/tesla-magic-dock-supercharger-inta... > https://supercharge.info/data https://supercharge.info/data
- NewJazz 3y ago
  Yeah this is being abandoned. But GM at least claims they'll offer a NACS->CCS1 adapter in 2024. So it just on the consumer to bring their own adapter. There is no need to have one at the stall for subsidy eligibility.