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Just a reminder that the "1 per store per day" is an innocent human being who probably would have been put through hell on earth by what you considered an accep
by twisteriffic 3y ago
Just a reminder that the "1 per store per day" is an innocent human being who probably would have been put through hell on earth by what you considered an acceptable rate of error.
- crazygringo 3y agoYou're missing the parts where I said twice that I wasn't defending the practice.
- gosub100 3y agoI've found that adding that disclaimer is entirely useless. Like holding beef jerky in front of a dog and saying "I'm not offering this to you, just holding it here".
- crazygringo 3y agoSo it's useless to say that A is wrong, but not because of B as claimed -- A is wrong for other reasons? That sure does limit discussion, and human reason generally. I mean, what do you suggest instead?
- gosub100 3y agoI'm just saying I've tried to proffer a position while disclaiming any support for it, and maybe some people listen, but there will always be someone who is too tempted to attack the position instead of treating it as a specimen.
- twisteriffic 3y agoYou really couldn't have picked a better example to illustrate why the OPs argument was so ignorant. Pretending that reality doesn't exist doesn't make it stop existing. No one is disagreeing that 1 per store per day is a small number. We're disagreeing with the OPs statement that there's nothing wrong with one false positive accusation of shoplifting per store per day given the obvious consequences of such an accusation in the context of the US system of policing and global blame shifting to the machine, and that given such a context essentially any false positive rate is too high.
- the_doctah 3y agoWhat is "hell on earth" to you? Cops have probable cause and search you. Find no evidence. "Oh boy sorry for the mix up sir". Hell on earth!
- twisteriffic 3y agoAh yes, those american police who are so well known for their thoughtful and calm approach to suspected shoplifters in low income neighborhoods.
- the_doctah 3y agoYou have an alternative for handling law breakers aside from just letting them do it?
- twisteriffic 3y agoYour insistence on framing people falsely accused of shoplifting as law breakers is telling.
- the_doctah 3y agosuspected law breakers then? Fucking semantics people. Also telling.
- twisteriffic 3y agoThis entire thread has been about false positives. Innocent people being falsely accused of shoplifting. The difference between committing a crime and not committing a crime is not simply semantics.
- the_doctah 3y agoPolice handle both. The "law breaking" aspect isn't proven until later. So the argument is moot anyway really.