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> I just read a news item that Musk uninstalled the Disney+ app from the entire Tesla fleet as retaliation for Disney pulling advertising from X. Mine still ha

by flutas 3y ago

> I just read a news item that Musk uninstalled the Disney+ app from the entire Tesla fleet as retaliation for Disney pulling advertising from X. Mine still has it, as well as a number of people. Everything I've seen is saying it was a bug[0] as it's happening to some cars and not others, and if it has disappeared, going to disneyplus.com in the browser makes it show back up.[1] [0]: https://twitter.com/WholeMarsBlog/status/1736641032677372163 https://twitter.com/WholeMarsBlog/status/1736641032677372163 [1]: https://twitter.com/WholeMarsBlog/status/1736652882622161332 https://twitter.com/WholeMarsBlog/status/1736652882622161332 --- EDIT: To the down-voters, you know there's a reply button to point out why you think I'm wrong, right?

ceejayoz 3y ago
Is this bug affecting any any other apps?
- flutas 3y ago
  At this time? Only their in-house FSD Beta software. https://twitter.com/teslascope/status/1737413197781696609 https://twitter.com/teslascope/status/1737413197781696609 In the past? Also yes. Tidal: https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads/tidal-app-disappeared.269725/ https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads/tidal-app-disappeare... TuneIn: https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads/tunein-gone.262861/ https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads/tunein-gone.262861/ All of the entertainment apps: https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads/tesla-theater-blank-screen.234874/ https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads/tesla-theater-blank-...
paxys 3y ago
https://twitter.com/FredericLambert/status/1736785128175669647 https://twitter.com/FredericLambert/status/17367851281756696...
- flutas 3y ago
  > "A source told" Yeah, until either company makes an official statement I'm going with Hanlon's razor. After all, wouldn't this be an easy win for Disney? "Look, Elon is so vindictive he's hurting his customers to spite us."
  - paxys 3y ago
    So basically because Musk's companies don't have a PR department, don't put out any official statements and respond to journalists' questions with a poop emoji, they should always get the benefit of doubt despite years of history of showing the opposite.
    - flutas 3y ago
      > So basically because Musk's companies don't have a PR department, don't put out any official statements and respond to journalists' questions with a poop emoji, they should always get the benefit of doubt despite years of history of showing the opposite. As I said in my previous reply, couldn't Disney make a statement too? According to your link "Disney was informed of this."
      - paxys 3y ago
        Disney has a competent PR team and rightly isn't getting dragged down into the mud by Musk to fight at his level. They don't need to put out any statements. The people affected are primarily Tesla's customers, and this is Tesla's mess to sort out. What % of Disney+ viewers are even using a Tesla? I'm sure their customer support can easily handle the dozen tickets that come through because of this.
        flutas 3y ago
        > Disney has a competent PR team and rightly isn't getting dragged down into the mud by Musk to fight at his level. "Tesla has removed the Disney+ streaming app from it's cars, we apologize but there is no solution to this problem from our side." That wouldn't be "getting dragged down into the mud" that would be making a statement to their customers. Or the least they could do is delete their help article saying how to access it? https://help.disneyplus.com/article/disneyplus-en-us-tesla https://help.disneyplus.com/article/disneyplus-en-us-tesla
nickthegreek 3y ago
The downvotes are coming as there is no need to give Elon the benefit of the doubt in December of 2023. We've all seen how he behaves against those who he doesn't agree with and it is much easier to see a clear path of the removal of the disney app as retaliation vs a weird bug that just removes 1 streaming app. The links you provided are a Paid twitter account who seems to run a bunch of pro Musk material.
- flutas 3y ago
  > The downvotes are coming as there is no need to give Elon the benefit of the doubt in December of 2023. We've all seen how he behaves against those who doesnt agree with and it is much easier to see a clear path of the removal of the disney app as retaliation vs a weird bug that just removes 1 streaming app. As I said to someone else, why hasn't Disney capitalized on this then? If it's truly vindictive, wouldn't it be an easy win for Disney to shit on him even more? "Look, Elon is so vindictive he's hurting his own customers to spite us." Just applying a bit of Hanlon's razor to life might do everyone some good.
  - nickthegreek 3y ago
    Why isn't Disney ($175B market cap) immediately and recklessly responding to something that happened hours ago? Because they aren't Elon Musk. Disney's immediate non-reaction has nothing to do with Tesla's action. Why are you linking them?
    - flutas 3y ago
      > Why isn't Disney ($175B market cap) immediately and recklessly responding to something that happened hours ago? Because they aren't Elon Musk. "Hours ago" and also supposedly informed last week? [0] > Disney's immediate non-reaction has nothing to do with Tesla's action. Why are you linking them? Chain OP linked them, not me. He claimed > I just read a news item that Musk uninstalled the Disney+ app from the entire Tesla fleet as retaliation for Disney pulling advertising from X. I supplied evidence that it may be a bug, and on top of that evidence that it's clearly not "the entire tesla fleet" like he claimed. You then claim "Disney's immediate non-reaction has nothing to do with Tesla's action"? At the very least, why hasn't Disney removed the help article saying how to access Disney+ on Tesla vehicles[1] if they've "been informed of this decision" as multiple articles have stated? --- Also, why does Disney's market cap matter? "($175B market cap)" Tesla has a market cap of $800+ billion. [0]: https://twitter.com/FredericLambert/status/1736785128175669647 https://twitter.com/FredericLambert/status/17367851281756696... [1]: https://help.disneyplus.com/article/disneyplus-en-us-tesla https://help.disneyplus.com/article/disneyplus-en-us-tesla
turquoisevar 3y ago
This makes it less likely it’s a bug to me. As a dev this reads as them purposely hiding the Disney+ app instead of uninstalling it, but forgot about the URL scheme. What’s happening in the video is, the now well known behavior, of a website opening its app when it detects its visited by a supported platform. Most OSs will automatically unhide an app icon when a hidden app is opened to give the user a reference point of the app they’re using.
- flutas 3y ago
  > This makes it less likely it’s a bug to me. It has happened in the past with other entertainment apps as well. [0],[1],[2] That's the main reason I think this is a bug. In this case, this build is also hiding FSD Beta from those eligible for some reason until the car is rebooted.[3] > Most OSs will automatically unhide an app icon Tesla isn't using an off the shelf UI though, so why would that apply? IIRC they use Ubuntu as the underlying OS, but I doubt that would have any affect on this. [0] Tidal: https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads/tidal-app-disappeared.269725/ https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads/tidal-app-disappeare... [1] TuneIn: https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads/tunein-gone.262861/ https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads/tunein-gone.262861/ [2] All media apps: https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads/tesla-theater-blank-screen.234874/ https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads/tesla-theater-blank-... [3] FSD Beta: https://twitter.com/teslascope/status/1737413197781696609 https://twitter.com/teslascope/status/1737413197781696609

by flutas 3y ago

ceejayoz 3y ago

Is this bug affecting any any other apps?

flutas 3y ago
At this time? Only their in-house FSD Beta software. https://twitter.com/teslascope/status/1737413197781696609 https://twitter.com/teslascope/status/1737413197781696609 In the past? Also yes. Tidal: https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads/tidal-app-disappeared.269725/ https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads/tidal-app-disappeare... TuneIn: https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads/tunein-gone.262861/ https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads/tunein-gone.262861/ All of the entertainment apps: https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads/tesla-theater-blank-screen.234874/ https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads/tesla-theater-blank-...

paxys 3y ago

https://twitter.com/FredericLambert/status/1736785128175669647 https://twitter.com/FredericLambert/status/17367851281756696...

flutas 3y ago
> "A source told" Yeah, until either company makes an official statement I'm going with Hanlon's razor. After all, wouldn't this be an easy win for Disney? "Look, Elon is so vindictive he's hurting his customers to spite us."
- paxys 3y ago
  So basically because Musk's companies don't have a PR department, don't put out any official statements and respond to journalists' questions with a poop emoji, they should always get the benefit of doubt despite years of history of showing the opposite.
  - flutas 3y ago
    > So basically because Musk's companies don't have a PR department, don't put out any official statements and respond to journalists' questions with a poop emoji, they should always get the benefit of doubt despite years of history of showing the opposite. As I said in my previous reply, couldn't Disney make a statement too? According to your link "Disney was informed of this."
    - paxys 3y ago
      Disney has a competent PR team and rightly isn't getting dragged down into the mud by Musk to fight at his level. They don't need to put out any statements. The people affected are primarily Tesla's customers, and this is Tesla's mess to sort out. What % of Disney+ viewers are even using a Tesla? I'm sure their customer support can easily handle the dozen tickets that come through because of this.
      - flutas 3y ago
        > Disney has a competent PR team and rightly isn't getting dragged down into the mud by Musk to fight at his level. "Tesla has removed the Disney+ streaming app from it's cars, we apologize but there is no solution to this problem from our side." That wouldn't be "getting dragged down into the mud" that would be making a statement to their customers. Or the least they could do is delete their help article saying how to access it? https://help.disneyplus.com/article/disneyplus-en-us-tesla https://help.disneyplus.com/article/disneyplus-en-us-tesla

nickthegreek 3y ago

The downvotes are coming as there is no need to give Elon the benefit of the doubt in December of 2023. We've all seen how he behaves against those who he doesn't agree with and it is much easier to see a clear path of the removal of the disney app as retaliation vs a weird bug that just removes 1 streaming app. The links you provided are a Paid twitter account who seems to run a bunch of pro Musk material.

flutas 3y ago
> The downvotes are coming as there is no need to give Elon the benefit of the doubt in December of 2023. We've all seen how he behaves against those who doesnt agree with and it is much easier to see a clear path of the removal of the disney app as retaliation vs a weird bug that just removes 1 streaming app. As I said to someone else, why hasn't Disney capitalized on this then? If it's truly vindictive, wouldn't it be an easy win for Disney to shit on him even more? "Look, Elon is so vindictive he's hurting his own customers to spite us." Just applying a bit of Hanlon's razor to life might do everyone some good.
- nickthegreek 3y ago
  Why isn't Disney ($175B market cap) immediately and recklessly responding to something that happened hours ago? Because they aren't Elon Musk. Disney's immediate non-reaction has nothing to do with Tesla's action. Why are you linking them?
  - flutas 3y ago
    > Why isn't Disney ($175B market cap) immediately and recklessly responding to something that happened hours ago? Because they aren't Elon Musk. "Hours ago" and also supposedly informed last week? [0] > Disney's immediate non-reaction has nothing to do with Tesla's action. Why are you linking them? Chain OP linked them, not me. He claimed > I just read a news item that Musk uninstalled the Disney+ app from the entire Tesla fleet as retaliation for Disney pulling advertising from X. I supplied evidence that it may be a bug, and on top of that evidence that it's clearly not "the entire tesla fleet" like he claimed. You then claim "Disney's immediate non-reaction has nothing to do with Tesla's action"? At the very least, why hasn't Disney removed the help article saying how to access Disney+ on Tesla vehicles[1] if they've "been informed of this decision" as multiple articles have stated? --- Also, why does Disney's market cap matter? "($175B market cap)" Tesla has a market cap of $800+ billion. [0]: https://twitter.com/FredericLambert/status/1736785128175669647 https://twitter.com/FredericLambert/status/17367851281756696... [1]: https://help.disneyplus.com/article/disneyplus-en-us-tesla https://help.disneyplus.com/article/disneyplus-en-us-tesla

turquoisevar 3y ago

This makes it less likely it’s a bug to me. As a dev this reads as them purposely hiding the Disney+ app instead of uninstalling it, but forgot about the URL scheme. What’s happening in the video is, the now well known behavior, of a website opening its app when it detects its visited by a supported platform. Most OSs will automatically unhide an app icon when a hidden app is opened to give the user a reference point of the app they’re using.

flutas 3y ago
> This makes it less likely it’s a bug to me. It has happened in the past with other entertainment apps as well. [0],[1],[2] That's the main reason I think this is a bug. In this case, this build is also hiding FSD Beta from those eligible for some reason until the car is rebooted.[3] > Most OSs will automatically unhide an app icon Tesla isn't using an off the shelf UI though, so why would that apply? IIRC they use Ubuntu as the underlying OS, but I doubt that would have any affect on this. [0] Tidal: https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads/tidal-app-disappeared.269725/ https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads/tidal-app-disappeare... [1] TuneIn: https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads/tunein-gone.262861/ https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads/tunein-gone.262861/ [2] All media apps: https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads/tesla-theater-blank-screen.234874/ https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads/tesla-theater-blank-... [3] FSD Beta: https://twitter.com/teslascope/status/1737413197781696609 https://twitter.com/teslascope/status/1737413197781696609