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Link to eBay listing: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/116001533010 https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/116001533010
by bouk 3y ago
Link to eBay listing: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/116001533010 https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/116001533010
- ethbr1 3y ago"This item is no longer available." ITAR/DDTC works fast.
- londons_explore 3y agoIf there is anything still covered by ITAR in a 50 year old engine, then it really reflects badly on humanities pace of innovation.
- LeifCarrotson 3y agoThere's probably a lot covered by ITAR in a 78-year-old atomic bomb. For better or for worse, ITAR isn't specifically about new technology secrets, it's about information and material with military application. You can't sell a US WWII tank without rendering its main gun inoperable to a civilian, much less a foreigner. That's not because ITAR is worried about foreign governments reverse-engineering that gun.
- ethbr1 3y agoAfaik, there's surprisingly little about the atomic bomb construction that's covered by export restrictions. Fissile materials, ofc. But the US government took the approach that "secret is better than banned" with the bomb, and just never stated any of the details (as they would have been required to, in order to prohibit them). MAD trade secrets, I guess.
- throwup238 3y ago> You can't sell a US WWII tank without rendering its main gun inoperable to a civilian, much less a foreigner. You actually can sell a tank with a working cannon (to a civilian in the US, foreign national or not) if you have at least a Type 09 license to deal in destructive devices and the buyer has a destructive device permit. To export it would be a lot harder (and getting the aforementioned permits is no joke either).
- adolph 3y agoHmm, seems like they missed licensing "Collector of 'Destructive Devices'." Maybe that's the invisible Type 9¾? Types of FFL: Type 01 – Firearm Dealer/Gunsmith Type 02 – Pawnbroker Type 03 – Collector Type 06 – Manufacture of Ammunition Type 07 – Manufacturer of Firearms Type 08 – Importer of Firearms Type 09 – Dealer of “Destructive Devices” Type 10 – Manufacturer of “Destructive Devices” Type 11 – Importer of “Destructive Devices” https://rocketffl.com/ffl-license-types/ https://rocketffl.com/ffl-license-types/
- throwup238 3y agoThere's basically two main classes of destructive devices: explosives and firearms with a bore over half an inch. The permits for the former are mostly issued to demolition and mining and it would be insane to allow anyone to "collect" explosives that degrade and become unstable. You don't actually need either the FFL or the permit if you just decommission the main gun, which is how most tank and artillery collectors get theirs. DD permits are rarely issued for explosives without a good reason (like construction or mining) so even if you get the permit for the gun, you'll struggle to get one for the shells.
- londons_explore 3y agoSure, but one would expect that any country whose military was a credible threat wouldn't be 50 years behind on any technology, and therefore would have independently invented something equivalent, or at least have all the knowledge/technology to be able to.
- staticautomatic 3y agoSo…I can buy an X-15?
- brookst 3y agoSure, Venmo me and I’ll get it shipped today.
- beejiu 3y agoIt says to me it was sold for £678,000.00. Perhaps only visible in the UK?
- henvic 3y agoIf you haven't seen the listing, scroll down.
- sofixa 3y agoThe engines on the Concorde were Anglo-French Rolls-Royce/Snecma Olympus 593, based on Bristol B.E.10 Olympus, an entirely British project, the second jet engine of its type in the world (preceded by a Pratt and Whitney). Why would it be covered under American export restrictions?
- arethuza 3y agoI think that was the same engine as the Vulcan bomber - I can remember when I was 12 or so watching a Vulcan doing aerobatics above the small Scottish village where I grew up. A Vulcan being thrown about the sky is quite an impressive sight, but what I really remember was the noise.... Many years later I was sitting in the BA lounge at Heathrow waiting for a flight to Edinburgh and pretty much the whole room started shaking and a loud rumbling could be heard. Someone commented it was Concorde taking off... :-)
- sofixa 3y agoYep, it was the original use case, the Vulcan bomber's engine. > Many years later I was sitting in the BA lounge at Heathrow waiting for a flight to Edinburgh and pretty much the whole room started shaking and a loud rumbling could be heard. Someone commented it was Concorde taking off... :-) Unfortunately there was a v2 revision/refresh of the Concorde that implemented many small improvements, including reduced noise, but it never got off the drawing board due to poor sales of the original model, which itself was in part due to the Concorde world wide tour to prop up sales, which used an even louder pre-production model and left a bad impression.
- mytailorisrich 3y agoWell-rated seller, too: "GOOD PRODUCT - CAN'T GO WRONG - QUICK DELIVERY - AAAAA+++++"
- vinni2 3y agoalready sold!
- rad_gruchalski 3y agoDamn, no Concorde flying for me this xmas then. Gotta wait for another one.
- jejones3141 3y agoDarn. Now nobody can attach it to a car, like in the urban legend.
- r3trohack3r 3y agoI’m fairly skeptical of the “frequently bought together” section
- intrasight 3y agoFunny that "compare to similar item" is a "British Airways Concorde Silver Letter Opener"
- LightBug1 3y ago“Not able to fly but perfect to dismantle and repurpose into collectable pieces of furniture or art” I mean ... what a tragedy if that will be it's end result!
- jfk13 3y agoInteresting that they're a "private seller" on eBay, although seem to actually have quite a business going... https://www.concordemem.com https://www.concordemem.com