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So... seems like european users will soon discover the joy of using VPNs daily, just like we in third world countries have been doing for years, right? It's im

So... seems like european users will soon discover the joy of using VPNs daily, just like we in third world countries have been doing for years, right? It's implemented by the same government body that wants more IT startups for the EU and is constantly wondering why don't people come make companies in the company.

brookst 3y ago
It’s a great place for innovation as long as you don’t care about porn or AI.
- poisonborz 3y ago
  And taxes, bureaucracy, enough workforce, and a few other things.
- egorfine 3y ago
  And taxes, bureaucracy, corporate law, right to use certain technologies, move money freely, attract venture funds, access capital markets, and the list goes on. Source: I'm in the EU right now on this very path.
adql 3y ago
...why ? it seems to be mostly about making sure content itself is, well, not illegal, not deanonymizing users
- papichulo2023 3y ago
  From what I understand, it is both.
izacus 3y ago
Perhaps read about what DMA is before making these statements? Why would you use VPN?
- ethbr1 3y ago
  > Why would you use VPN? Because you're underage and want to see porn. I've heard it's a thing that happens sometimes. (This in reference to the stated goals of UK and various European national governments to age-gate)
  - egorfine 3y ago
    Because you are of legal age and want to see porn and you don't want to KYC with pornhub or others.
- cstrahan 3y ago
  I thought it was pretty clear that the GP comment is suggesting that PornHub et al will simply stop serving to the EU, which is a perfectly fine, legal thing to do. If that’s what happens, you will need to use a VPN to access these sites, should you want to do that.
  - PrimeMcFly 3y ago
    Not unless the EU blocks them. They could still offer the site and just not have any offices in the EU or do business with EU entities in the EU (although they could do business with Pornhub in the US I guess).
    - filoleg 3y ago
      > Not unless EU blocks them. I would love to see EU try mass-blocking VPNs without managing to unintentionally block a bunch of AWS ranges and other accidental targets. I spin up an AWS EC2 instance, use it as a VPN, and then what is EU gonna do? Ban AWS IPs? Sure, you can say an average person wouldn’t even really know what AWS is. So being able to spin up an AWS instance and use it as a VPN is beyond reach for for an average person. But don’t worry, there are a lot of products (some of which are nearly free) and providers addressing that exact issue. Spoiler: EU won’t ban VPNs, unless they end up fully committed to looking like clowns that are chasing CCP ambitions, but without the CCP level of expertise and skill.

brookst 3y ago

It’s a great place for innovation as long as you don’t care about porn or AI.

poisonborz 3y ago
And taxes, bureaucracy, enough workforce, and a few other things.
egorfine 3y ago
And taxes, bureaucracy, corporate law, right to use certain technologies, move money freely, attract venture funds, access capital markets, and the list goes on. Source: I'm in the EU right now on this very path.

adql 3y ago

...why ? it seems to be mostly about making sure content itself is, well, not illegal, not deanonymizing users

papichulo2023 3y ago
From what I understand, it is both.

izacus 3y ago

Perhaps read about what DMA is before making these statements? Why would you use VPN?

ethbr1 3y ago
> Why would you use VPN? Because you're underage and want to see porn. I've heard it's a thing that happens sometimes. (This in reference to the stated goals of UK and various European national governments to age-gate)
- egorfine 3y ago
  Because you are of legal age and want to see porn and you don't want to KYC with pornhub or others.
cstrahan 3y ago
I thought it was pretty clear that the GP comment is suggesting that PornHub et al will simply stop serving to the EU, which is a perfectly fine, legal thing to do. If that’s what happens, you will need to use a VPN to access these sites, should you want to do that.
- PrimeMcFly 3y ago
  Not unless the EU blocks them. They could still offer the site and just not have any offices in the EU or do business with EU entities in the EU (although they could do business with Pornhub in the US I guess).
  - filoleg 3y ago
    > Not unless EU blocks them. I would love to see EU try mass-blocking VPNs without managing to unintentionally block a bunch of AWS ranges and other accidental targets. I spin up an AWS EC2 instance, use it as a VPN, and then what is EU gonna do? Ban AWS IPs? Sure, you can say an average person wouldn’t even really know what AWS is. So being able to spin up an AWS instance and use it as a VPN is beyond reach for for an average person. But don’t worry, there are a lot of products (some of which are nearly free) and providers addressing that exact issue. Spoiler: EU won’t ban VPNs, unless they end up fully committed to looking like clowns that are chasing CCP ambitions, but without the CCP level of expertise and skill.