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It has VW software, so… yeah. No doubt, all the ID.s drive great. Their usability otherwise is not good however. Especially the capacitive “buttons” on the stee

by fuzzy2 3y ago

It has VW software, so… yeah. No doubt, all the ID.s drive great. Their usability otherwise is not good however. Especially the capacitive “buttons” on the steering wheel are atrocious.

have_faith 3y ago
> capacitive “buttons” on the steering wheel Dystopian authors got it all wrong, this is what we should have been warned about.
- rsynnott 3y ago
  The trouble is that they were presented as utopian; see Star Wars TNG’s obsession with them. The Enterprise D doesn’t have any real buttons at all.
  - hef19898 3y ago
    Just shows how far certification requirement dropped by the time of TNG. Nowadays, no Starfleet ship design would be certifiable. Obviously joking, but the reason for this in TNG, as it is for cars, that it was cheaper. The same reason RBMK reactors are graphite moderated with a positive void coefficient.
    - rsynnott 3y ago
      > Just shows how far certification requirement dropped by the time of TNG. Well, see also the lifts; I’m pretty sure that over the course of the series the Enterprise alone had more catastrophic lift incidents than most _countries_ today have in like time. And the consoles which explode whenever anything happens. And the _bloody holodeck_. Clearly, at some point in the next century, some catastrophe kills off engineering as a discipline entirely.
      - hef19898 3y ago
        Next century? You, sir, are an optimist!
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barrkel 3y ago
FWIW, I've found the VW group software for traffic sign recognition significantly more accurate than BMW, and I like the lane assist, it's far less intrusive than other implementations I've driven. (I'm not including lane centering - I can't stand lane centering.) (I base this mostly on comparing driving my Skoda Superb 2019 and a BMW 5-series touring estate rental with luxury trim on the same roads, a mix of city, urban and autobahn.)
stiGGG 3y ago
I regularly drive an ID3 and every ten minute or so I accidentally activate a button on the left side of the steering wheel. It’s happening in roundabouts, sharp turns or sometimes even on straights when I just adjust my hand position. The buttons on the left are for the cruise control which this car doesn’t have, so it’s always only showing an error on the driver screen, which is funny on it’s own, but probably a good thing in this case. The software has a lot of unforgivable quirks, but other than that it drives very well.

by fuzzy2 3y ago

It has VW software, so… yeah. No doubt, all the ID.s drive great. Their usability otherwise is not good however. Especially the capacitive “buttons” on the steering wheel are atrocious.

have_faith 3y ago

> capacitive “buttons” on the steering wheel Dystopian authors got it all wrong, this is what we should have been warned about.

rsynnott 3y ago
The trouble is that they were presented as utopian; see Star Wars TNG’s obsession with them. The Enterprise D doesn’t have any real buttons at all.
- hef19898 3y ago
  Just shows how far certification requirement dropped by the time of TNG. Nowadays, no Starfleet ship design would be certifiable. Obviously joking, but the reason for this in TNG, as it is for cars, that it was cheaper. The same reason RBMK reactors are graphite moderated with a positive void coefficient.
  - rsynnott 3y ago
    > Just shows how far certification requirement dropped by the time of TNG. Well, see also the lifts; I’m pretty sure that over the course of the series the Enterprise alone had more catastrophic lift incidents than most _countries_ today have in like time. And the consoles which explode whenever anything happens. And the _bloody holodeck_. Clearly, at some point in the next century, some catastrophe kills off engineering as a discipline entirely.
    - hef19898 3y ago
      Next century? You, sir, are an optimist!
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barrkel 3y ago

FWIW, I've found the VW group software for traffic sign recognition significantly more accurate than BMW, and I like the lane assist, it's far less intrusive than other implementations I've driven. (I'm not including lane centering - I can't stand lane centering.) (I base this mostly on comparing driving my Skoda Superb 2019 and a BMW 5-series touring estate rental with luxury trim on the same roads, a mix of city, urban and autobahn.)

stiGGG 3y ago

I regularly drive an ID3 and every ten minute or so I accidentally activate a button on the left side of the steering wheel. It’s happening in roundabouts, sharp turns or sometimes even on straights when I just adjust my hand position. The buttons on the left are for the cruise control which this car doesn’t have, so it’s always only showing an error on the driver screen, which is funny on it’s own, but probably a good thing in this case. The software has a lot of unforgivable quirks, but other than that it drives very well.