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How can you bias a livestream where you drive the number of kilometers that you later claim that you can drive with the car? You can at worst commit outright fr

How can you bias a livestream where you drive the number of kilometers that you later claim that you can drive with the car? You can at worst commit outright fraud, but bias?

ViewTrick1002 3y ago
Hypermiling is a known method for extending the range. That is why standardized tests are important so you can match the standardized number to your driving. A livestream is hard to fake but what tires were they using? What was the climate control setting? What speed? Did they have a tail wind? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypermiling https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypermiling
- adrianN 3y ago
  They give you most of that information in the article.
- tooltalk 3y ago
  The maximum speed was caped to 90 km/hour (56 miles/hour), and the energy consumption was 13.2 kWh/100 km. The average speed for the trip was 83.9 km/h. so there it goes, driven at an average speed of 53 mph hypermilling! For comparison, Tesla M3 achieved 975km: In May 2018, Sean Mitchell and Erik Strait set a hypermiling record for the Tesla Model 3 by driving 606.2 miles on a single charge after 32 hours of driving.
  - Interesco 3y ago
    For comparison, the Tesla Model 3 was travelling at an average of 18.94 mph
    - tooltalk 3y ago
      Sure, the M3 also has 1/3 less battery capacity too.
wkat4242 3y ago
Well, Tesla did exactly that, they faked a full autopilot demo: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/tesla-autopilot-staged-engineer-says-company-faked-full-autopilot/ https://www.cbsnews.com/news/tesla-autopilot-staged-engineer... And they clearly can use a rigged car, cherrypick conditions etc. If it even were live.
- adrianN 3y ago
  So fraud, not bias
  - wkat4242 3y ago
    Sure but it depends on the location. I guess in China fraud committed by a company with strong party connections (as all companies have) is not illegal. Otherwise half the alibaba sellers would be arrested :) :) But I generally don't like to throw legal terms around unless it's been proven in court.

How can you bias a livestream where you drive the number of kilometers that you later claim that you can drive with the car? You can at worst commit outright fraud, but bias?

ViewTrick1002 3y ago

Hypermiling is a known method for extending the range. That is why standardized tests are important so you can match the standardized number to your driving. A livestream is hard to fake but what tires were they using? What was the climate control setting? What speed? Did they have a tail wind? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypermiling https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypermiling

adrianN 3y ago
They give you most of that information in the article.
tooltalk 3y ago
The maximum speed was caped to 90 km/hour (56 miles/hour), and the energy consumption was 13.2 kWh/100 km. The average speed for the trip was 83.9 km/h. so there it goes, driven at an average speed of 53 mph hypermilling! For comparison, Tesla M3 achieved 975km: In May 2018, Sean Mitchell and Erik Strait set a hypermiling record for the Tesla Model 3 by driving 606.2 miles on a single charge after 32 hours of driving.
- Interesco 3y ago
  For comparison, the Tesla Model 3 was travelling at an average of 18.94 mph
  - tooltalk 3y ago
    Sure, the M3 also has 1/3 less battery capacity too.

wkat4242 3y ago

Well, Tesla did exactly that, they faked a full autopilot demo: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/tesla-autopilot-staged-engineer-says-company-faked-full-autopilot/ https://www.cbsnews.com/news/tesla-autopilot-staged-engineer... And they clearly can use a rigged car, cherrypick conditions etc. If it even were live.

adrianN 3y ago
So fraud, not bias
- wkat4242 3y ago
  Sure but it depends on the location. I guess in China fraud committed by a company with strong party connections (as all companies have) is not illegal. Otherwise half the alibaba sellers would be arrested :) :) But I generally don't like to throw legal terms around unless it's been proven in court.