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Cool I can now use this in my closed source project without ever giving any change back! Hate this GPL that requires you to give back anything if you let others

by zobzu 15y ago

Cool I can now use this in my closed source project without ever giving any change back! Hate this GPL that requires you to give back anything if you let others get your product.

techiferous 15y ago
GPL requires you to give back; MIT gives you the choice. Developers are by nature creative people. And humans are not incapable of altruism. Even with an MIT license, I expect a lot of community contributions to pour in. In fact, I expect more community contributions to come in. MIT means (perhaps) a lower percentage of users will give back, but there will be a higher absolute number of users since the license is more permissive.
getsat 15y ago
http://www.itworld.com/it-managementstrategy/233753/gpl-copyleft-use-declining-faster-ever http://www.itworld.com/it-managementstrategy/233753/gpl-copy... Permissive licenses are just fine (arguably, better).
Sanddancer 15y ago
Until you want to use some CDDL-licensed code. Or some APSL code, or one of the many other mutually incompatible viral licenses out there. Especially in something like a web framework, where most of the clauses of the GPL wouldn't apply anyway. License dickwaving makes the community a worse place. Stop doing it, sit down, and code something.
callumjones 15y ago
Maybe you should check out other MIT licensed frameworks and assess whether they have fostered a closed or open community. Rails is MIT licensed and as a result we have seen a lot of companies build their web applications on Rails and build very successful businesses, but we have also seen a range of opens source plugins/gems and applications themselves built around Rails which have resulted in a better web community. This is 2012, developers who care about something like Meteor also care enough about open source to give back. We don't want developers to be forced to make their products open source, they should feel compelled by the enjoy of helping others.

by zobzu 15y ago

Cool I can now use this in my closed source project without ever giving any change back! Hate this GPL that requires you to give back anything if you let others get your product.

techiferous 15y ago

GPL requires you to give back; MIT gives you the choice. Developers are by nature creative people. And humans are not incapable of altruism. Even with an MIT license, I expect a lot of community contributions to pour in. In fact, I expect more community contributions to come in. MIT means (perhaps) a lower percentage of users will give back, but there will be a higher absolute number of users since the license is more permissive.

getsat 15y ago

http://www.itworld.com/it-managementstrategy/233753/gpl-copyleft-use-declining-faster-ever http://www.itworld.com/it-managementstrategy/233753/gpl-copy... Permissive licenses are just fine (arguably, better).

Sanddancer 15y ago

Until you want to use some CDDL-licensed code. Or some APSL code, or one of the many other mutually incompatible viral licenses out there. Especially in something like a web framework, where most of the clauses of the GPL wouldn't apply anyway. License dickwaving makes the community a worse place. Stop doing it, sit down, and code something.

callumjones 15y ago

Maybe you should check out other MIT licensed frameworks and assess whether they have fostered a closed or open community. Rails is MIT licensed and as a result we have seen a lot of companies build their web applications on Rails and build very successful businesses, but we have also seen a range of opens source plugins/gems and applications themselves built around Rails which have resulted in a better web community. This is 2012, developers who care about something like Meteor also care enough about open source to give back. We don't want developers to be forced to make their products open source, they should feel compelled by the enjoy of helping others.