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I’m honestly not sure if it’s okay nowadays to say this out loud (even when it’s positive), but the pilots are both girls. Fantastic role models, protecting the

I’m honestly not sure if it’s okay nowadays to say this out loud (even when it’s positive), but the pilots are both girls. Fantastic role models, protecting the nature AND by doing something usually considered a male activity. (the gender ratio in aviation is abysmal)

clort 3y ago
It could be more positive to refer to them as women, or female, since you compare with male in the context of the gender ratio. Girls are children, but the pilots in the article are adult scientists.
- actionfromafar 3y ago
  This comment is a friendly reminder that the purity spiral begins at comment level 3. No handrails below this level. Proceed with caution.
- amanaplanacanal 3y ago
  This was a huge issue for us second wave feminists from the 60’s and 70’s. It seems like the younger generations don’t really care about it any more, as they seem to have other (bigger?) fish to fry.
eszed 3y ago
I'm sorry to have to point this out - the story is lovely, and your comment is intended positively - but the pilots were men. The scientists who worked with the birds, and led the expedition, are women, but they were passengers, not aviators.
- Toutouxc 3y ago
  You're right, I must've missed that on the first read. Shame, could've been a bit more badass. Now I'm wondering what the scientists do throughout the flight. Observe, obviously, but also if they have any signalling going on or any kind of communication with the birds (except "follow us").
  - eszed 3y ago
    It's clear from the article that they were in pretty constant communication with the birds, via megaphone. At one point one of the scientists mentioned calling to one of the birds by name. I couldn't tell (but would like to know) if that implies the birds recognize and respond individually, or whether the names of the recalcitrant were invoked more generally, in imprecation.

clort 3y ago

It could be more positive to refer to them as women, or female, since you compare with male in the context of the gender ratio. Girls are children, but the pilots in the article are adult scientists.

actionfromafar 3y ago
This comment is a friendly reminder that the purity spiral begins at comment level 3. No handrails below this level. Proceed with caution.
amanaplanacanal 3y ago
This was a huge issue for us second wave feminists from the 60’s and 70’s. It seems like the younger generations don’t really care about it any more, as they seem to have other (bigger?) fish to fry.

eszed 3y ago

I'm sorry to have to point this out - the story is lovely, and your comment is intended positively - but the pilots were men. The scientists who worked with the birds, and led the expedition, are women, but they were passengers, not aviators.

Toutouxc 3y ago
You're right, I must've missed that on the first read. Shame, could've been a bit more badass. Now I'm wondering what the scientists do throughout the flight. Observe, obviously, but also if they have any signalling going on or any kind of communication with the birds (except "follow us").
- eszed 3y ago
  It's clear from the article that they were in pretty constant communication with the birds, via megaphone. At one point one of the scientists mentioned calling to one of the birds by name. I couldn't tell (but would like to know) if that implies the birds recognize and respond individually, or whether the names of the recalcitrant were invoked more generally, in imprecation.