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>> Microsoft got smacked for this kind of behavior in the 90s (albeit, they acted a lot more egregiously). If apple were blocking Signal, or if apple screwed u

>> Microsoft got smacked for this kind of behavior in the 90s (albeit, they acted a lot more egregiously). If apple were blocking Signal, or if apple screwed up SMS this might be a comparison. > Apple purposefully degrades major features of their chat app when SMS users are onboard. Does sms work? The iMessage features, and more so the ones that use their infra are their walled garden.... just because they are in the same app as SMS doesn't grant some magical right for any one to use them... >>> When you have that much of a market, it becomes way more complicated than "their servers, their devices, their rules" 57 percent US 30 globally is not a moat, its first mover advantage, and its on a premium product. And if apple had 90%, and still allowed for Signal, and complied with SMS you would be hard pressed to get iMessage access to raise to the levels of the DOJ and anti trust measures.

parl_match 3y ago
Features like group chats and image sharing are barely useful on SMS. There is no encryption either. > 57 percent US 30 globally is not a moat, its first mover advantage, and its on a premium product. And if apple had 90%, and still allowed for Signal, and complied with SMS you would be hard pressed to get iMessage access to raise to the levels of the DOJ and anti trust measures. Those are still huge numbers and way more people using their product than microsoft had in the 90s. I don't even think Apple needs to open iMessage, they just need to support RCS (which the EU is forcing them to do), and most complaints will go away.
- hedora 3y ago
  There’s no encryption in rcs (in practice) and it doesn’t support many of the things iMessage does. Google and the carriers could have worked together to produce a non-terrible iMessage-style protocol, and could have released an iOS app that supported it. They chose not to do either of those things, and now they’re whining about the outcome.

parl_match 3y ago

Features like group chats and image sharing are barely useful on SMS. There is no encryption either. > 57 percent US 30 globally is not a moat, its first mover advantage, and its on a premium product. And if apple had 90%, and still allowed for Signal, and complied with SMS you would be hard pressed to get iMessage access to raise to the levels of the DOJ and anti trust measures. Those are still huge numbers and way more people using their product than microsoft had in the 90s. I don't even think Apple needs to open iMessage, they just need to support RCS (which the EU is forcing them to do), and most complaints will go away.

hedora 3y ago
There’s no encryption in rcs (in practice) and it doesn’t support many of the things iMessage does. Google and the carriers could have worked together to produce a non-terrible iMessage-style protocol, and could have released an iOS app that supported it. They chose not to do either of those things, and now they’re whining about the outcome.