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> As far as I'm aware, no other messaging service offers interop any more. XMPP still exists. Matrix exists now and is similarly an open protocol.

• ljm 3y ago
  But none of the mainstream providers support it anymore. Slack got to where it is through XMPP, for example, but that support was readily dropped. They've all silo'd up.
  • ryukafalz 3y ago
    Okay, if you're only counting "mainstream" providers then... sure, but that's pretty subjective. Element has government agencies as customers and lots of open source projects have Matrix rooms. Webex seems to still support XMPP federation. (No, I don't particularly like Webex either.) Are these the market leaders in chat? No, of course not. Do they get some use? They sure do.
    • solardev 3y ago
      What are webex and element?
      • ryukafalz 3y ago
        Element is the company that mostly drives Matrix development. Webex is a Cisco chat product that I think is mostly used by bigcorps. (Supposedly they have upwards of 10,000 employees on it, which feels crazy to me.)
    • kelnos 3y ago
      Right, but ultimately they don't really matter. What matters is where your friends and family want to chat. Overwhelmingly, that's platforms like iMessage, Whatsapp, Telegram, etc. Small players use open protocols and even sometimes federate because they're small, and that sort of thing can be seen as a feature that people might care about. Large players don't have to care. They already have enough users that they don't need to play nice with others. And that's where only legislation can change things.