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So you think if you get banned without notice you should be unable to appeal and this is what fosters a healthy community?
by OnlineGladiator 3y ago
So you think if you get banned without notice you should be unable to appeal and this is what fosters a healthy community?
- whalesalad 3y agoAbsolutely. Those in power make mistakes all the time.
- insanitybit 3y agoSo strange, none of the words you said appear in my post.
- OnlineGladiator 3y ago> I've been on sites with moderators who could basically just enforce the rules as they liked and it's so much better. No "well technically I'm not rule breaking" - a human makes a judgment and bans them. I'm not sure how else to interpret what you typed.
- insanitybit 3y agoI said nothing about lack of appeals or lack of notice. I said that mods would make judgment calls.
- OnlineGladiator 3y agoIs there ever a situation where mods don't make judgment calls? Or are you just saying moderated is better than unmoderated? Also you specifically pointed out that arguing over the ban is bad, which is implies appealing the ban is bad.
- insanitybit 3y agoThere are - when they go by the letter of the rules.
- OnlineGladiator 3y agoYou realize a moderator has to make a judgment on whether or not they're breaking the rules though, right? That's a human decision. Anyway, this is a circular conversation. Cheers.
- insanitybit 3y agoI don't think it's circular, you just put words in my mouth and now you're not understanding what it means to follow the rules to the letter versus interpreting their intent.
- OnlineGladiator 3y agoRules have ambiguity. If there's a rule like "no jokes allowed" how do you decide that mechanically without human judgment? Do you seriously believe everything is binary without nuance? This entire argument is over whether or not I'm understanding your words correctly, and you're simultaneously arguing that words are not ambiguous and have a clearly defined meaning. I feel like you're missing the irony here.
- insanitybit 3y agoAgain with another straw man. Not continuing this. Everyone else gets what I'm saying.
- OnlineGladiator 3y agoYour initial comment is downvoted and you assume everyone understands you? My point isn't a straw man - it's a counterexample that disproves your statement. If you're going to make absolute rules with no ambiguity then you need to know how to handle all cases - otherwise the rules are ambiguous and require human judgment. This isn't even subjective it's an objectively true statement.
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